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Post 1 made on Thursday April 28, 2005 at 09:57
Ken Gillett
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For some time I have been frustrated by the apparent inability of my RC5000i to work when a button is a link to another button that is a jump. Although I'm sure I have seen this work on occasions in the past, I cannot get it to work now, whether the button being linked to is on the same page or not.

I know the 'Special functions' of the NG models are like this, but are such 'remote jumps' impossible on the Marantz?

Is there any way get this to work?
OP | Post 2 made on Thursday April 28, 2005 at 12:46
Ken Gillett
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I have done some more testing with this and found 2 pages where there's a button which is a link to another button on the same page which contains a jump to another page. Both the destination pages are similar and the source pages virtually identical (the macros containing the jumps differing only by the actual destination of the jump), but on one source page the link button works, but not on the other page. Nothing I could do would make it work.

So I copied the action from the working button to the other and it worked, although of course ending up on the wrong page.

So then I edited the macro and chose a different destination to the jump, in fact back to the correct destination again and surprisingly found that it works.

I now have EXACTLY the same contents of the 2 macros (that contain the jumps) as I had before when one didn't work, but now it does. Surely this can only be considered a bug?

Is there any way to avoid these pitfalls, or even a reliable fix when they occur?

Someone tell me the NGs don't suffer from the same problem - please.
Post 3 made on Thursday April 28, 2005 at 17:24
Peter Dewildt
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A link to a button with a Jump in it will only execute the Jump if the Jump is NOT the last action. This is for historical compatibility reasons. In earlier versions a Jump was only allowed to be the last action and it was never executed when a link was done.
Peter
Pronto 1000 (retired), Pronto TSU7000, RFX6000 (retired)
Pronto 2xTSU9600, RFX9400
Post 4 made on Thursday April 28, 2005 at 18:03
Lyndel McGee
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In short, following the jump as the last action, add a Delay 0.1s and you will be fine.

Lyndel
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OP | Post 5 made on Friday April 29, 2005 at 04:15
Ken Gillett
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Thanks for the response guys, but that's not in fact the whole story. As I stated in my post, I had 2 identical situations - a link to another button (on the same page, but that's irrelevant) with a jump (and followed by the delay - I know that one). But one of them worked and the other did not. The only difference was the destination of the jump.

After copying the working one onto the jump button that didn't work and then changing the destination to what it should be - it worked. IOW, there was something about the macro that meant it would fail, but the other macro was a 'working' macro, yet apparently identical.

After modifications to my config file I had a lot of links to jumps that didn't work, none of the new ones in fact. By copying this 'working' macro and setting the destination correct, they now all work as they should.

I have found that once a link-jump is working, you can link to the jump button/macro as many other times as you want and they all work, whereas if the first one didn't work, none of them will. The problem obviously lies in the macro/button that contains the jump. It will work with a direct action, but not when linked to. It's as if the action following the jump is ignored and it reverts to the behaviour already mentioned, i.e. jumps don't work if they're the last action.

So, there can be something different (but hidden) about 2 macros that means one works and one doesn't. The macros are simply:-

jump to...
delay 0.1s

nothing complicated. The destination of the jump is irrelevant. If it works, you can set it to any other page and it continues to work and vice versa. Whatever this difference is, it is copied with the macro if you copy to another button.

I am using Tonto, could the bug be in that rather than the Pronto?
Post 6 made on Saturday April 30, 2005 at 00:11
Lyndel McGee
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Could be a problem with Tonto. Would not surprise me but I think the software is relatively stable.

However, also be sure that the page that is the target for the jump also has at least 1 button with a valid action. I don't think this is the case but I just had to throw it out there.

Lyndel
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