10/24/22 - In searching for the perfect day, Timmy discovers something unexpected!
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Topic: | Arrgh! Why won't commands work under macro??? This thread has 49 replies. Displaying posts 16 through 30. |
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Post 16 made on Friday January 24, 2003 at 18:54 |
King of typos Loyal Member |
Joined: Posts: | June 2002 5,265 |
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How long does it take between the power on that you have to wait until the record button is pressed? And I am asking this for the oem, not the pronto's buttons.
Rob
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Post 17 made on Friday January 24, 2003 at 19:01 |
James Reed Lurking Member |
Joined: Posts: | January 2003 5 |
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Some theory, when you are dealing with one remote, then a 10% range of operation means that if I am only 9% high then it will work. If I learn this, and then the remote that I use to learn it is 6% high, then both devices are individually in spec, however the signal that I am producing is now 14% high. Now, if the receiver is 4% low then you have a condition where the learned signal will not work with the receiver but will work with the original remote. There are many variations on this scenario. And the best way to resolve it is to plant yourself in front of the device and using the test button in the pronto editor add IR, adjust the base frequency up and then down until it doesn't work. And then set the value to the split difference to the two. This will essentially calibrate the Added IR to the center operation frequency of the receiver, irrespective of the original transmitters frequency.
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OP | Post 18 made on Saturday January 25, 2003 at 07:40 |
cerebros Long Time Member |
Joined: Posts: | January 2003 12 |
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Having now had time to test this, I've found that I can press the OEM remote's record button as soon as I've pressed the power button and when the display comes on, it shows the deck is in the standard Record-Pause mode. So that's about 1 in total (probably less)
I've also found that the Pronto could well not be learning everything the OEM remote as if i press the Play button on the OEM remote, it'll bring the deck out of standby and start playing. If I try and do the same with the learned Play button on the Pronto, it won't do it.
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Post 19 made on Saturday January 25, 2003 at 07:43 |
haav Founding Member |
Joined: Posts: | August 2001 170 |
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Paste the "faulty" code. Sometimes the one-time-part and repeat-part are mixed.
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OP | Post 20 made on Saturday January 25, 2003 at 11:05 |
cerebros Long Time Member |
Joined: Posts: | January 2003 12 |
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Play: 0000 0066 0000 000d 0060 0019 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 03c9
Record: 0000 0066 0000 000d 0060 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 03b1
Power/Standby: 0000 0066 0000 000d 0060 0019 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 03c9
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Post 21 made on Saturday January 25, 2003 at 16:08 |
haav Founding Member |
Joined: Posts: | August 2001 170 |
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Your codes are clean. You can try to extend the codes: Play: 0000 0066 0000 001a 0060 0019 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 03c9 0060 0019 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 03c9
Record: 0000 0066 0000 001a 0060 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 03b1 0060 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 03b1
Power/Standby: 0000 0066 0000 001a 0060 0019 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 03c9 0060 0019 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 03c9
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OP | Post 22 made on Thursday January 30, 2003 at 15:21 |
cerebros Long Time Member |
Joined: Posts: | January 2003 12 |
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Thanks for the codes - unfortunately they didn't cure the problem...
I might try e-mailing Sony to see if they'll tell me if there's anything special their remote does that the Pronto can't learn (not that i have much hope that they'll help me)
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Post 23 made on Thursday January 30, 2003 at 15:58 |
Peter Dewildt Loyal Member |
Joined: Posts: | July 2001 6,307 |
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There is a difference between a macro and a button with just one action. In a macro, each IR Code is transmitted once. In a single-action button, the IR Code is transmitted as long as you keep the button pushed.
It could be that in the macro, the transmit time is not quite long enough. Try multiple aliases to your Record button. If that does not work, there are other techniques to extend the duration of an IR transmission.
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Peter Pronto 1000 (retired), Pronto TSU7000, RFX6000 (retired) Pronto 2xTSU9600, RFX9400 |
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OP | Post 24 made on Saturday February 1, 2003 at 12:50 |
cerebros Long Time Member |
Joined: Posts: | January 2003 12 |
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Well after spending time doing things a little more scientifically this afternoon, i think it could well be the duration of the power button (or at least something to do with the learned code).
At the moment (and it definitely wasn't doing this before, so something has started working somewhere), if i create a macro that does not include the power button in the sequence and start with the deck on rather than ins standby, the macro will start the deck recording.
The thing that seems to be tripping the process up is the power button, so if anyone can tell me how to adjust the time duration of the power button, I'll give that a whirl and see if it works.
thanks
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OP | Post 25 made on Sunday February 2, 2003 at 13:03 |
cerebros Long Time Member |
Joined: Posts: | January 2003 12 |
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Well it goes against the grain, but I can now use a work-around to the power button problem - I simply use the fact that the learned "play" button is now bringing the deck out of standby to run the following sequence:
Play delay Stop delay Record delay Play
which achieves the same end result. It's just annoying that i can't do it properly
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Post 26 made on Sunday February 2, 2003 at 17:05 |
Peter Dewildt Loyal Member |
Joined: Posts: | July 2001 6,307 |
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Which does suggest the duration of the power button is a bit short.
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Peter Pronto 1000 (retired), Pronto TSU7000, RFX6000 (retired) Pronto 2xTSU9600, RFX9400 |
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OP | Post 27 made on Wednesday February 5, 2003 at 12:30 |
cerebros Long Time Member |
Joined: Posts: | January 2003 12 |
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Unfortunately Sony UK's support people were useless when asked what the required duration of the standby button signal was that they don't have access to that information.
So if someone from Sony, the company that MAKE the remote can't get access to that info, who can???
Having said that, I'm not sure that the person who responded even knows what the MDS-JB980 is, as they started talking about AV receivers later in the reply...
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Post 28 made on Wednesday February 5, 2003 at 13:12 |
Daniel Tonks Wrangler of Remotes |
Joined: Posts: | October 1998 28,761 |
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Have you tried purposely learning a dirty code?
Which model of remote are you using, with what firmware version?
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Post 29 made on Wednesday February 5, 2003 at 13:27 |
PoohBah888 Active Member |
Joined: Posts: | December 2002 637 |
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When you call Customer "Support", in most cases, you're talking to a contracted service whose employees basically read from a script.
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Post 30 made on Wednesday February 5, 2003 at 16:11 |
mdacosta No Longer Registered |
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On 01/25/03 16:08, haav said...
Your codes are clean. You can try to extend the codes: Play: 0000 0066 0000 001a 0060 0019 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 03c9 0060 0019 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 03c9 How do you figure this out? I don't mean to take away from this specific thread, but I'm having a similar problem and would like to know how to extend the code. Specifically: 0000 0067 0000 000d 0060 0019 0030 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0018 0019 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0018 0019 0018 0018 0018 03f4 and 0000 0067 0000 000d 0061 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0030 0018 0030 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 0018 043a Thank you!
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