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Hard button global setting?
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Post 1 made on Monday February 18, 2002 at 18:16
Mikeyb
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I have played around with a Pronto NEO, but I haven't invested enough time to figure out if the hard button settings in the ProntoNEO device (the top device where the device overview is) are global or not. I would have assumed that they would be...just like the Pronto. But, in the little testing I did, it looks like the settings don't work the same as the Pronto. Anyone know for sure?

Whoever is designing these things (or paying for it) isn't "a very BRIGHT boy"....

Oh, I have invested enough time and pulled enough hair out because of these damn things. I put it away and have refused to look into answering my own question for now!
Post 2 made on Monday February 18, 2002 at 21:21
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No they are not "global" I personally think this is very good. If you want you all to be the same then programming can accomplish that easily enough. By leaving it up to the user it essentially mutiplies the number of hard buttons by however many devices you have. As a matter of fact this is how I've designed my NCF. Most of the buttons on the touchscreen that I use everyday are jumps to other devices so the hard buttons behave differently. For instance, PVR changes all the hard buttons to control digital video recording and then dish would change the buttons back to control the guide functions. I usually have three or four jumps that are on my frequently visited pages. The pages usually have four buttons of helpful everyday buttons specific to the device or activity. Bottom left and right are larger and can be operated with out looking like a hard button. For the dish guide page, for instance, the left bottom of the screen is guide and the right bottom is exit.
Post 3 made on Tuesday February 19, 2002 at 00:07
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sorry this is not an answer, but is there a way to make say the volume buttons global so as to control my reciver from any mode? If not what is the best approach?

thanks rwi

This message was edited by RWI on 02/19/02 00:08.35.
Post 4 made on Tuesday February 19, 2002 at 13:03
britfan75
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rwi,

You can simply program each device hard button with the IR code from your receiver

Jay
OP | Post 5 made on Tuesday February 19, 2002 at 14:29
Mikeyb
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Well, I prefer the way the Pronto and Pronto-like remotes do it. You can configure the hard buttons globally, then for any specific device, you can override the global setting with other more specific settings. This saves a lot of time. Having the volume up and down be set globally is a no brainer type of function, so I think the powers that be goofed with the NEO in this respect.
Post 6 made on Tuesday February 19, 2002 at 15:58
Hammy211
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Given your expertise I am suprised that you would ask such a question or have a problem with programming the different hard buttons. FYI, you will have to learn to each vol hard button and this is a bit of a pain if you don't have one that is easy to learn. If you link the button to a alias it will send out the vol command in a 1 sec burst whether you quickly push it or hold it down. On my toshiba tv that means 3 vol increments and it really annoying to keep hitting vol over and over to have it go more than that.
OP | Post 7 made on Tuesday February 19, 2002 at 20:12
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Hammy -
I ran out of patience to play with the remote to answer the question myself, so I asked hoping someone already knew. Thank you for the quick response. In playing with the remote as much as I did and was willing, I do think I became pretty knowledgeable with it (with the exception of my original question). I do understand how to program the hard buttons and that to make a button global, you have to learn the button over and over for every device. It still does not make sense to do it this way though. The Pronto is much easier: If I configure the hard buttons globally in just one spot, and I want the buttons to act different on any device or several devices, I can easily set the buttons on those devices differently (overriding the global settings). I don't think I'm missing something here.....It just plain makes more sense to do it this way. And for the life of me, I can't figure out why the NEO is different.

Also, in regard to aliasing the hard button (volume in your example), I had the same experience you mentioned with one TV's volume but not with another. I found aliasing all hard buttons to learned or coded soft buttons works best. In many cases where I initially aliased a hard button to another learned hard button, those links were gone after uploading or re-opening the same NCF file. This doesn't happen when aliasing all hard buttons to learned soft buttons. And you only have to learn any one code once.
Post 8 made on Wednesday February 20, 2002 at 04:17
Hammy211
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I've never had a pronto 2000 so I'll just take your word for it. Saving up for a RC9200. Isn't that what you would recommend?


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