I have bitmaps for all the channels I watch, but how do you program them to the actual channel? I tried to do it manually by adding ir code ie: ir code#2, ir code#3 for mtv. but it only programs the last ir code you select.

You have to make a link to each of the IR codes.

First, you have you Number pad layout, with 0-9, each one has the IR code for that number, then you take and create a macro for say the MTV bitmap, and each number used will like to the number pad, first #2,then #3

You can also change input and other things using the same button for the MTV bitmap..

so are you saying to place the the buttons for the number pad and then overlay the bmp's over the that, then link them with a macro?

i've seem to discover that you must always link to a pre-existing button somewhere within your program and that button can contain the IR code. kinda stupid, but that means you might have a page of buttons that you don't intend to use, just link to from macros.

You might also have to place a delay between numbers if the channel is two of the same digits(ie 22, 33). You need to program them as follows:
2
delay
2

vanderwielen: not that stupid. imagine you change your TV do you want to have to change every digit on every channel icon or change the 10 digits in one place? An idea shared by a lot of Pronto users (with some experience) is to create a panel that will contain all the IR codes for a given device, then you hide those panels (can you hide panels on the Neo) and all the buttons on the user interface alias to those hidden buttons. This way if you change your TV, you know where to find all the codes and you will not forget one by mistake. If you decide to change the UI or move buttons from one panel to the next you will not risk destroying something important (oops deleted the 1 so I have to recreate a lot of my channel buttons)

This message was edited by Anthony on 12/21/01 09:24.37.

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This message was edited by allamand on 12/21/01 10:48.17.

So I have a layout with 6 pages and 8 channel bitmaps per page, thats 49 buttons. I also have a layout with 160 buttons for my Sony DVD changer.

Now if I was to put in IR codes for all of them, do you really think the Neo would have enough memory for this? I still need the number pad, as I really don't plan to put in buttons for over 500 channels! So when one thinks about it, it is a very nice way to do it!

Just think if you have to learn the IR codes! Wow, that would be insane! I can have all them 48 buttons, link to one Page that then I have to only learn the IR code for 10 buttons!

You can't hide pages in the Neo software, though you can hide them by using no bitmape and having the text color the same as background, but the button will still work if pressed.

anime023, If you want ?I can email you a .ncf file that has many macros,let me know..


This message was edited by allamand on 12/21/01 10:48.57.

hey allamand could you email me that! thanks. (anime023@hotmail.com)... so basically create a page with channels 0-9 and I can delete the buttons and change the color to match the background then overlap that page with the custom bitmaps of station icons...

Once you delete the bitmaps, you can't overlap them, youd have a blank page! Though not sure as to how small you can make them, but if you look at the TV device pages in my .ncf file, you will see a few buttons I have "Hidden" this way..

Also, the new software is out! You will lose your .ncf file when you upgrade the FLASH!! Yet it has to be done first in order to Upload..

what new software are you talking about the software edit version 2.7.1... or whatever came out a couple of months ago? what is the link

[Link: pronto.philips.com]

allamand: you are right, you cannot hide pages. And since the device page is autogenerated you cannot hide them by hiding the device (using a space for the devices name). But I guess if you could fit all the devices on the first page, then you could create an IR-Device for the IR codes that will end up on the second device page. But the idea of separation was to make the UI different from the part that does the work, so that you can change button shapes and stuff without problems. Centralizing all commands is still a good idea

has anyone figured out anyway to change the buttons used on the first device page? if you play with black/white ncf file, you still get the grey buttons. this is true for any ncf file either one of the samples or any i make. i think they must be hardcoded for all ncf files. too bad we can't play with them.

I fear that that you'll never be able to change the Neo's Device Overview page..it is set up the way it is..and maybe a software change or firware, but then it'll be too much like the Prontos..