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Harmony One - problems getting right input source
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Post 1 made on Tuesday July 22, 2008 at 12:06
euphoria
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Hi guys,

My TV is a panasonic 42py700. when i use the original remote, to get to the correct source, i have the press the AV button a few times to get to the correct input.

sequence as follow:

AV1
AV2
AV3
PC
HDMI1
HDMI2
HDMI3
HDMI4
TV

My digital setop box is in AV1, DVD is thru HDMI1.

Whenever i press Play TV, all inputs are correct. Then when i press DVD, its goes to PC. Then i press the help button several times, it adjusts to HDMI1, I exit HELP.
When I press Play TV again, now it goes to TV, not AV1 anymore, i press help again, it goes to the correct input. I Play DVD again, Wrong input again!

Very frustrating, can some kind souls help me pls!

Last edited by euphoria on July 24, 2008 03:41.
Post 2 made on Tuesday July 22, 2008 at 12:16
hhatkin
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It sounds as if you're using Method 1 instead of Method 2 for setting your inputs.
Using the right one should solve the problem - come back if it doesn't.
Post 3 made on Tuesday July 22, 2008 at 13:03
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2 possible causes - the list of inputs in the harmony software does not match the TV exactly (go to TV device, Adjust Inputs to correct) OR (more likely) the tv is missing one or more of the "next input" commands due to a timing issue. Increase the inter-device delay to fix that.
OP | Post 4 made on Tuesday July 22, 2008 at 13:28
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On July 22, 2008 at 12:16, hhatkin said...
It sounds as if you're using Method 1 instead of Method
2 for setting your inputs.
Using the right one should solve the problem - come back
if it doesn't.

I have to select method one, bacause i do not have a shortcut to the various inputs , on my original remote.

i have to press AV, then scroll down to the input
Post 5 made on Tuesday July 22, 2008 at 13:43
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Try all the input commands in device mode paying attention to their behaviour (toggle/cycling vs discrete action). Many devices support discrete input commands even if they are not on the OEM remote. If your TV supports discrete commands (tested in device mode), then use method 2. You don't need the OEM remote to configure your Harmony. Just select the appropriate commands from the drop-down list.
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OP | Post 6 made on Tuesday July 22, 2008 at 14:06
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On July 22, 2008 at 13:43, jlet said...
Try all the input commands in device mode paying attention
to their behaviour (toggle/cycling vs discrete action).
Many devices support discrete input commands even if they
are not on the OEM remote. If your TV supports discrete
commands (tested in device mode), then use method 2. You
don't need the OEM remote to configure your Harmony. Just
select the appropriate commands from the drop-down list.

you mean for example if i want to set av1, i select one input command from the input list one at a time and try?

u tried 0 to 9, it all corresponds to the the TV channels, none go to AV.

i am really losted. trying to get everything done so that my wife can use.
Post 7 made on Tuesday July 22, 2008 at 14:11
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On July 22, 2008 at 13:28, euphoria said...
i do not have a shortcut
to the various inputs , on my original remote.

You don't have them on the original remote, but you DO have them in the Harmony database.
To make use of them follow the method given by jlet in #5.
Post 8 made on Tuesday July 22, 2008 at 15:10
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On July 22, 2008 at 14:06, euphoria said...
you mean for example if i want to set av1, i select one
input command from the input list one at a time and try?

u tried 0 to 9, it all corresponds to the the TV channels,
none go to AV....

No, first try all the commands starting with "Input" in Device mode. If they work properly, then you reconfigure the device Adjust input accordingly. If you have to use the cycling method, then read Akirby's post #3 above.
H659, H680, SA8300HD, TH-50PZ850, AVR-X4000
Post 9 made on Tuesday July 22, 2008 at 15:48
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There are actually 3 ways to get a Panasonic TV to the correct input.
Cycling is the slowest.
You can also press TV/Video then 1, 2 or whatever input is needed.
The Discrete button method also works.
If there are no Input buttons in the Device mode then the Support team should be able to add them for you.
I was using the second method myself and found it prone to errors.I called Harmony support and had them add discretes.
I then was able to use Method 2 as described in posts 2 and 5 above.
Now the Panny goes to the correct input every time.

Last edited by Sucubus on July 22, 2008 16:16.
Post 10 made on Tuesday July 22, 2008 at 19:38
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On July 22, 2008 at 15:48, Sucubus said...
I was using the second method myself and found it prone
to errors. I called Harmony support and had them add discretes.

Out of interest, before support added the discretes, how were you able to use method 2 at all?
Post 11 made on Tuesday July 22, 2008 at 19:48
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I first used Method 1 (cycling). Then I discovered I could quicken the time to get to an input by using Method 4 (TV/Video then a number key).
After I got the discretes added I then used Method 2.
OP | Post 12 made on Wednesday July 23, 2008 at 03:53
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On July 22, 2008 at 15:48, Sucubus said...
There are actually 3 ways to get a Panasonic TV to the
correct input.
Cycling is the slowest.

You can also press TV/Video then 1, 2 or whatever input
is needed.
The Discrete button method also works.
If there are no Input buttons in the Device mode then
the Support team should be able to add them for you.
I was using the second method myself and found it prone
to errors.I called Harmony support and had them add discretes.
I then was able to use Method 2 as described in posts
2 and 5 above.
Now the Panny goes to the correct input every time.

Sorry, I'm really confused, not familiar with technical jargons like "discrete button". May i know what are Discrete Buttons?

I dont think there are input buttons in my Harmony. How do i ask Logitech to add for me?
OP | Post 13 made on Wednesday July 23, 2008 at 04:38
euphoria
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found this on the net.

[Link: panasonic.com]

will it help me in anyway?

if yes, how can i input and use these information?
Post 14 made on Wednesday July 23, 2008 at 07:36
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On July 23, 2008 at 03:53, euphoria said...
May i know what are Discrete Buttons?

I dont think there are input buttons in my Harmony.

jlet explained in #5 what they are.
Discrete commands are separate commands, one for each of the input sockets on your TV, that you can use individually instead of cycling through the list.
I said in #7 that the Harmony database DOES have them for your device.
They don't appear on your original remote but they have been provided as a bonus for use on Harmonys.
In the software go to Devices> TV> Settings> Customise Buttons, press one of the down-arrows under Commands and you will see that the drop-down list includes commands with names beginning with Input.
You should test those that you need, then if they work use method 2 to set them.
OP | Post 15 made on Wednesday July 23, 2008 at 08:01
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On July 22, 2008 at 15:10, jlet said...
No, first try all the commands starting with "Input" in
Device mode. If they work properly, then you reconfigure
the device Adjust input accordingly. If you have to use
the cycling method, then read Akirby's post #3 above.

On the harmony, under device, i select TV. on the touch screen i can only see power toggle, red, blue, yellow, tv/av etc. none of these works as a direct shortcut. only tv/av, but i got to press several times to get to the Input type.
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