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Harmony 885 Beginner questions
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Post 1 made on Thursday July 10, 2008 at 16:03
Kallisti
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I've just recieved my Harmony 885 and generally was very impressed by all of the setup (with some hiccups to do with communication).

However, I've got a couple of problems.

1/ My dual light dimmer requires two continuous signals. The Harmony DB actually has the make and model, but the controls it provides (toggle, dim and bright) are not correct for it. How can I get a pair of continuous buttons, and ideally - how can I have them as soft buttons on every device/activity?

2/ The volume control works on the amp for my activites, but not for my devices. Can I make it do that?

3/ If I go to a device, is it possible to go back to the activity page without having to re-run it?
Post 2 made on Thursday July 10, 2008 at 16:50
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1 - if the db commands don't work, try learning them from the original remote. If that doesn't work try learning in RAW mode. If that doesn't work, call support. Sometimes they can change how the signals are sent to handle those types of cases.

2 - Device mode is meant to mimic the OEM remotes for each device. So device mode for the DVD only controls the DVD not the amp. However, if you really want to do that just teach the amp volume commands to each device and map those to the volume buttons in each Device mode.

3 - hit the Devices button twice.
OP | Post 3 made on Thursday July 10, 2008 at 16:52
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1/ I don't have an original remote - the light switch just needs a continuous signal and it learns it. Unfortunately, trying to learn one from another (random) remote has resulted in a non-continuous signal... Guess I'll call support in the morning.
Post 4 made on Thursday July 10, 2008 at 16:53
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Kallisti,
3/ Hit the Device or Activity button twice.
2/ I am not sure I fully understand the question but :
you can only assign one device to the Hard Volume button per activity.
If you also want to control say the TV volume then you may assign the TV volume buttons to Soft keys.
You can do this via the Remote software by going to Activites and then Customize Buttons, then Additional Buttons.
Therein you can assign any Device command (Volume Up, Volume Down for example)
from any Device.
1/ State the Make and Model of the dimmer to start off with.
Try a similar model of light dimmer and see that may have correct commands.
If you want these soft buttons on every avctivity (we don't use the Device mode much except for troubleshooting) you will need to enter them in each Activity (see the method in /2 above)
OP | Post 5 made on Thursday July 10, 2008 at 17:12
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3/ Hit the Device or Activity button twice.

This still runs the activity profile (eg, turning things on, switching the amp and TV to the correct inputs). That's kind of annoying as it mutes the sound and makes the picture flick off/on. Am I missing something here?

1/ State the Make and Model of the dimmer to start off
with.
Try a similar model of light dimmer and see that may have
correct commands.

The light switch is an IQ IQ1252. It's in the DB, but it's clearly not even the same series of light switches let alone the right switch. It also has IQ1401, but that's a single switch, not a dual one.
Post 6 made on Thursday July 10, 2008 at 17:29
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If you're in an Activity, go to a Device, and then go back to the same Activity by pressing the Activity button twice, no commands will be sent, so there will be no effect on picture or sound.
Again your point 2 isn't clear, but it suggests you may not yet have the Activities set up properly - which could be causing a problem with point 3.
Post 7 made on Thursday July 10, 2008 at 18:23
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It's the Device button you need to press again to go back to the Activity your were in.
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Post 8 made on Thursday July 10, 2008 at 19:43
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The OEM remote for that dual IQ-1252 light dimmer is sold separately, but it can be taught any button from any other OEM remote. Since you don't have the optional OEM remote, then choose 2 spare buttons (one for each sensor) from 1 or 2 OEM remote(s). Make sure the chosen buttons are really spare (won't control anything else) and the command is repeated when the button is held down. After you have successfully programmed the IQ-1252 light dimmer with these 2 buttons, now your need to teach these 2 buttons to the Harmony IQ-1252 device. However, these is a catch. Harmony will learn these buttons as single action (not continuous when the button is held down). You will need to call Support to change the internal action flag from "single" to "continuous". Note: I am not sure of this (never tried it) but the Harmony learning tool may set this internal flag to continuous, if the command name starts with "Volume..." or "Channel..." and is initially mapped to a hard key.

You can add the light dimmer device to all activities in one go by using the special option "Select the Activities that use this device" under "Device > Settings". It's under "Device > More Options" for the website interface. This special option is only available to Home Automation device types (Light Controller, Climate Control, Home Appliance). However, you will need to use the "Customize Buttons" for each activity to map the light dimmer commands to the desired activity keys. The non-selective automatic command propagation feature was removed a long time ago.
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Post 9 made on Thursday July 10, 2008 at 19:55
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On July 10, 2008 at 18:23, jlet said...
It's the Device button you need to press again
to go back to the Activity your were in.

OK - the 525 and One must be different.
On both when you go to Devices you can get back to your Activity by pressing Activities twice, and on the One there's also a screen button for "current activity" that you press once.
OP | Post 10 made on Friday July 11, 2008 at 03:12
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Note: I am not sure of this
(never tried it) but the Harmony learning tool may set
this internal flag to continuous, if the command name
starts with "Volume..." or "Channel..." and is initially
mapped to a hard key.

Good idea, but if I do that I can't add them to any activities as they'll be the wrong type (eg, not light controller). I'll just learn another command and ask them to set the continuous flag on it. Didn't know they'd do that sort of thing, seems something they should have in the interface!

Everything else is slotting into place - finally understand the activities thing, and I'd been using devices when I should have been assigning things to activities and using them instead.
OP | Post 11 made on Friday July 11, 2008 at 06:55
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I've just spoken to Logitech and they've altered my config, asking me to test and get back to them. They say they changed the activity to add a button press from the light control device, and that the continuous setting went in the activity, not the device. Is that correct?

Not at my harmony at the moment so can't test it yet!
Post 12 made on Friday July 11, 2008 at 12:28
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As you want the device in every activity, they should have either added the "continuous" to every activity or, more easily, added it to the device!
Post 13 made on Friday July 11, 2008 at 17:32
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Kallisti,
When teaching a command to a device, the command name as no bearing on the device type. The device type was assigned when you added the device by selecting the appropriate device category.

I don't know how "global" is this internal single/continuous action flag. It could be command and/or key specific, in device and/or activity specific, etc. Since the flag is NOT user configurable, you will have to call Support if they get it wrong.
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