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Back to HDMI ARC trouble
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Post 1 made on Friday September 30, 2022 at 18:07
tomciara
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Others recommended the Snap/Sonos B260 HDMI ARC extenders, so I have used a handful in the field. Two in particular are giving me intermittent troubles.

Sonos AMP.

Sonos/Snap B260 ARC extender.

Samsung 80 series QLED TV.

Sound flips back and forth from TV sound to AMP sound.

Is the 80 series QLED problematic?  I’ve got other Samsung and Sony working in the field.

I have two of these troublesome ones in the field, 55” at one location, 65” at another.  Problems.
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Post 2 made on Friday September 30, 2022 at 19:14
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If I was in your position, I’d stop trying to be an HDMI Guinea pig and install products that work and don’t rely on tech that is the Wild West.
Post 3 made on Friday September 30, 2022 at 22:06
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I’ve usex the binary piece on an older Sunbrite TV and Samsung Frame TV so far with no issues FWIW. Maybe check to see if Atmos is enabled? I had a Yamaha receiever that really acted up with the Atmos option in the Samsung turned on.
Post 4 made on Saturday October 1, 2022 at 07:16
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A friend sent a text yesterday to tell me he and the people he works with were returning from CEDIA, then sent some photos of what he had seen. I asked if anyone had fixed HDMI and he laughed.

20 years into HDMI and it still sucks.
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Post 5 made on Saturday October 1, 2022 at 09:26
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If they were reimbursing us for all the stupid service calls we get they would have it fixed by now!
Post 6 made on Saturday October 1, 2022 at 09:50
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On October 1, 2022 at 09:26, andrewinboulder said...
If they were reimbursing us for all the stupid service calls we get they would have it fixed by now!

HDMI=Horribly Defective Multimedia Interface
My mechanic told me, "I couldn't repair your brakes, so I made your horn louder."
Post 7 made on Saturday October 1, 2022 at 12:48
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On September 30, 2022 at 18:07, tomciara said...
Others recommended the Snap/Sonos B260 HDMI ARC extenders, so I have used a handful in the field.

To be clear... I have NEVER recommend those to you. Nor would I ever. :)
OP | Post 8 made on Saturday October 1, 2022 at 14:43
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On October 1, 2022 at 09:50, highfigh said...
HDMI=Horribly Defective Multimedia Interface

Hope (it) Displays My Image
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OP | Post 9 made on Saturday October 1, 2022 at 14:43
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On October 1, 2022 at 12:48, Brad Humphrey said...
To be clear... I have NEVER recommend those to you. Nor would I ever. :)

I’ll have to go back and check… was sure it was you… 😀
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Post 10 made on Saturday October 1, 2022 at 18:48
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I had the same issue with an 85" samsung with the external box and the snap arc balun. We eventually gave up and moved the sonos amp to the TV and jumped the speakers back to the rack and out to the in ceiling speakers. That solved the issue. PIA though.
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Post 11 made on Monday October 3, 2022 at 13:52
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disable eARC if it is on, and potentially switch to stereo output from display or source devices and your problems should vaporize.
OP | Post 12 made on Tuesday October 4, 2022 at 01:36
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On October 3, 2022 at 13:52, Easton Altree said...
disable eARC if it is on, and potentially switch to stereo output from display or source devices and your problems should vaporize.

What is the significance of the eARC and why does it help here?
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Post 13 made on Tuesday October 4, 2022 at 08:34
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Post 14 made on Tuesday October 4, 2022 at 17:06
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eARC is capable of more bandwidth for lossless audio and I know has limitations at longer lengths for optical and active cables. Blu-ray is practically the only source that has lossless audio with few exceptions, so in theory if you aren't using Blu-ray, it shouldn't matter but this is HDMI. Definitely, try tuning off eARC.
Some devices with eARC can use ARC for audio but can turn off CEC. If that is available to you try turning off CEC. Before eARC regular ARC requires CEC to be on which can cause problems.
OP | Post 15 made on Tuesday October 4, 2022 at 23:43
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On October 4, 2022 at 17:06, BobL said...
eARC is capable of more bandwidth for lossless audio and I know has limitations at longer lengths for optical and active cables. Blu-ray is practically the only source that has lossless audio with few exceptions, so in theory if you aren't using Blu-ray, it shouldn't matter but this is HDMI. Definitely, try tuning off eARC.
Some devices with eARC can use ARC for audio but can turn off CEC. If that is available to you try turning off CEC. Before eARC regular ARC requires CEC to be on which can cause problems.

Thank you.  If I read you correctly, eARC could be problematic at distances with extenders. But eARC is required in order to turn off CEC. Did I get that right?
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