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| Topic: | Harmony on the way out? This thread has 93 replies. Displaying posts 61 through 75. |
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| Post 61 made on Wednesday February 3, 2021 at 11:57 |
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On February 3, 2021 at 10:38, drewski300 said...
When you have that kind of money, you can create demand by telling people (advertising) they can't live without a universal remote. Include voice control that also ties into Alexa or HeyGoogle and you can't imagine a world without those things.
At some point, there will be a consumer based software/hardware company How would you define 'consumer based'?
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| Post 62 made on Wednesday February 3, 2021 at 12:25 |
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On February 3, 2021 at 11:57, highfigh said...
How would you define 'consumer based'? Anything a consumer can purchase, program, and use without a pro. So Ring, Caseta, Harmony, Sonos, etc. There will come a time where somebody will come out with a whole home automation system that will include hand held remote controls. If they took Harmony's database, they would have an instant leg up. What's the latest, Alexa Hunches? It's only a matter of time where home automation is only consumer based. We will all be forced to use "Homekit" because everyone is using it (using for an example). Doesn't mean our jobs go away. It just means how we do business shifts.
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| Post 63 made on Wednesday February 3, 2021 at 14:07 |
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The only IR stuff left is old tech the new generation want's nothing to do with Receivers, disc players and cable boxes. You'd have better luck selling stock in Kodak.
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| Post 64 made on Wednesday February 3, 2021 at 14:08 |
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On February 3, 2021 at 10:38, drewski300 said...
When you have that kind of money, you can create demand by telling people (advertising) they can't live without a universal remote. Include voice control that also ties into Alexa or HeyGoogle and you can't imagine a world without those things.
At some point, there will be a consumer based software/hardware company that will create an "assistant" platform for everything in your home (including a remote control). Harmony has the control down and if they could integrate everything else, it would be a product you couldn't live without. Forcing everyone to run to the store. People are sheep and whoever can direct the flock will be the one who comes out ahead.
Honestly, Amazon should be the one who purchases Harmony. They have the selling platform and Alexa. Interesting viewpoint, but my point still stands that it is a dwindling market, not an increasingly large market. Especially as cable boxes turn into Comcast apps, there will be no need for universal remotes, as the supplied remote, with voice built-in, is preferable to spending considerable cash on something redundant.
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| Post 65 made on Wednesday February 3, 2021 at 16:28 |
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On February 3, 2021 at 14:07, Rob Grabon said...
The only IR stuff left is old tech the new generation want's nothing to do with Receivers, disc players and cable boxes. You'd have better luck selling stock in Kodak. Imagine the young Kodak engineer proposing digital cameras to management as a martial arts movie where the novice approaches the grand master trying to take the stone. Kodak management would simply point out that they had maintained total control over the film market for eons and that this digital video thing is insignificant.
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| Post 66 made on Wednesday February 3, 2021 at 17:01 |
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I'm fine with it going away. #crestronsale
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| Post 67 made on Wednesday February 3, 2021 at 19:16 |
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I'm ok with no control systems too. Two years ago I couldn't imagine why anyone would install systems without something like RTI or Procontrol..etc...In the last year I don't even think I installed one RTI system and did maybe 5 ProControl remotes. Everything Sonos, Ignite (Xfinity) and Samsung TV for Apple TV. So they have to learn two remotes. Everything else in the home has their native app that can't really be replicated. RTI has their new programming suite and I'm happy I won't have to waste my life away learning it.
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| Post 68 made on Wednesday February 3, 2021 at 21:49 |
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Remember our denial years ago of "its all going wireless"...
With the short attention spans of today if you have to do more than plug it into the wall and fire up the app, you have lost them.
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| Post 69 made on Wednesday February 3, 2021 at 23:19 |
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On February 3, 2021 at 16:28, buzz said...
Imagine the young Kodak engineer proposing digital cameras to management as a martial arts movie where the novice approaches the grand master trying to take the stone. Kodak management would simply point out that they had maintained total control over the film market for eons and that this digital video thing is insignificant. I had some enlargements made from negatives at a local shop in the mid-'90s and when I went back to have one repaired after it had raindrops on it (started as I was walking toward a framing shop), I saw piles of 5x7 prints on various tables. I asked about them and was told that another place had contracted them to make the prints because they were extremely busy. I knew the other place had moved toward digital and had been reading a lot of photography mags at the time, so I said that they should get into digital, to keep up with the times and until it really gets to the point where it would be equal to film's resolution, they could do both. Guess who folded only a couple of years later. It's too bad, too- they did great work.
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| Post 70 made on Wednesday February 3, 2021 at 23:20 |
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On February 3, 2021 at 10:38, drewski300 said...
Honestly, Amazon should be the one who purchases Harmony. They have the selling platform and Alexa. IIRC, Pike said that even as well as Harmony has been doing, they amounted to less than 1% of Logitech's business last year.
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| Post 71 made on Thursday February 4, 2021 at 09:02 |
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I guess dating sites aren't as profitable as they used to be.
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| Post 72 made on Friday February 5, 2021 at 12:39 |
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On February 3, 2021 at 16:28, buzz said...
Imagine the young Kodak engineer proposing digital cameras to management as a martial arts movie where the novice approaches the grand master trying to take the stone. Kodak management would simply point out that they had maintained total control over the film market for eons and that this digital video thing is insignificant. In what I would classify as one of the greatest ironies of all time: Guess who invented the digital camera
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| Post 73 made on Tuesday February 9, 2021 at 23:59 |
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On January 24, 2021 at 10:47, highfigh said...
Some guy on the internet? Well, I wasn't wrong now, was I?
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| Post 74 made on Wednesday February 10, 2021 at 00:25 |
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On February 5, 2021 at 12:39, pjp said...
In what I would classify as one of the greatest ironies of all time: Guess who invented the digital camera Their digital photo patent portfolio saved them from going under.
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| Post 75 made on Wednesday February 10, 2021 at 16:56 |
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On December 30, 2020 at 13:16, cconklin1 said...
lol, that article is nothing but click bait and fear mongering. It was 100% accurate, and came to fruition. Apparently, you were wrong about this.
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