Your Universal Remote Control Center
RemoteCentral.com
Custom Installers' Lounge Forum - View Post
Previous section Next section Up level
Up level
The following page was printed from RemoteCentral.com:

Login:
Pass:
 
 

Topic:
Cabinet builders, MDF backs, TV mounting
This thread has 13 replies. Displaying all posts.
Post 1 made on Wednesday February 26, 2020 at 21:51
tomciara
Loyal Member
Joined:
Posts:
May 2002
7,965
A couple weeks ago, a cabinet maker put in a cabinet with a false back. It was three-quarter inch MDF. I was supposed to mount a 75 inch QLED television to it. I was uncomfortable with that. I finally put some reinforcements behind the MDF until I thought it was solid.

There’s a huge difference between lagging into a 2 x 4 stud wall, and a three-quarter inch MDF back. At least they used to use inch and a quarter to inch and a half plywood. I could use some additional bolts. But this has got me a little bit spooked.
There is no truth anymore. Only assertions. The internet world has no interest in truth, only vindication for preconceived assumptions.
Post 2 made on Wednesday February 26, 2020 at 21:56
iform
Advanced Member
Joined:
Posts:
September 2010
760
When I used to do a lot of cabinet designs, I would always draw up the backer with 2x4 studs screwed to the cabinet and up the backer to simulate studded walls.

And have to do pilot holes. I have seen so many tvs lagged into MDF or plywood cabinets without pilot holes and you can see the wood blowing out.
Post 3 made on Wednesday February 26, 2020 at 22:52
FreddyFreeloader
Super Member
Joined:
Posts:
April 2004
3,243
You can use zip toggles if it makes you feel better. Also remember if you’re not doing a full motion mount it’s mostly sheer weight and if it’s not even a tilt mount you don’t have to worry about anybody messing with it.
Post 4 made on Wednesday February 26, 2020 at 22:59
Hasbeen
Loyal Member
Joined:
Posts:
November 2007
5,274
Here you go Tom.  280lbs in drywall.

[Link: homedepot.com]
Post 5 made on Thursday February 27, 2020 at 00:17
Mac Burks (39)
Elite Member
Joined:
Posts:
May 2007
17,518
I put 3/4" plywood behind the MDF if you can get to it or in front of the MDF if you cant. Plywood should be as big as the opening. Glue and screw plywood to the MDF. Then you have something solid to mount to.
Avid Stamp Collector - I really love 39 Cent Stamps
OP | Post 6 made on Thursday February 27, 2020 at 01:34
tomciara
Loyal Member
Joined:
Posts:
May 2002
7,965
The most recent one is not even a full back. It’s 14” wide and 37” tall, 1-1/2” thick.

And yes, it’s an articulating mount. This time a 65” Frame TV.
There is no truth anymore. Only assertions. The internet world has no interest in truth, only vindication for preconceived assumptions.
Post 7 made on Thursday February 27, 2020 at 02:21
Ernie Gilman
Yes, That Ernie!
Joined:
Posts:
December 2001
30,104
You'll probably always ask or specify how the back of a custom cabinet is to be built. If you're dealing with a cabinet and some cheesy piece of 1/4" crap that's a half inch off the wall, then you've got a problem .

Even there, you could take a hole saw to the rear panel in those locations where you're going to support the TV, then use those fliptoggles or togglers (I only use 1/4"-20 togglers myself) with spacers. This could give you a mounting surface at each location that's further from the wall than the cabinet back. Voila, the wall supports the TV and the backing is out of the picture.
A good answer is easier with a clear question giving the make and model of everything.
"The biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place." -- G. “Bernie” Shaw
Post 8 made on Thursday February 27, 2020 at 08:10
3PedalMINI
Loyal Member
Joined:
Posts:
July 2009
7,860
Just use Togglers, MDF has incredible compression strength
The Bitterness of Poor Quality is Remembered Long after the Sweetness of Price is Forgotten! - Benjamin Franklin
OP | Post 9 made on Friday February 28, 2020 at 13:05
tomciara
Loyal Member
Joined:
Posts:
May 2002
7,965
So your first MDF back didn’t cause you to even think twice?
There is no truth anymore. Only assertions. The internet world has no interest in truth, only vindication for preconceived assumptions.
Post 10 made on Saturday February 29, 2020 at 15:20
3PedalMINI
Loyal Member
Joined:
Posts:
July 2009
7,860
On February 28, 2020 at 13:05, tomciara said...
So your first MDF back didn’t cause you to even think twice?

No, I knew immediately when I drilled for the lag, ran out and got the togglers. I’ve done it countless times. I even have one job with an articulating mount, granted it’s only 12-14” from the back but it’s been ok.

If you have ever tried to even break a scrap piece of MDF it takes some work.

Toggles fine, Lags are a nono!
The Bitterness of Poor Quality is Remembered Long after the Sweetness of Price is Forgotten! - Benjamin Franklin
Post 11 made on Saturday February 29, 2020 at 18:00
Ernie Gilman
Yes, That Ernie!
Joined:
Posts:
December 2001
30,104
On February 29, 2020 at 15:20, 3PedalMINI said...
...ran out and got the togglers.

Toggles fine, Lags are a nono!

This cannot be said too many times: not toggles, but toggleRs. Those are completely different items.

See, you know it's togglers, and I know it's togglers, but if you write toggles, sooner or later some newby will read this, think you're using exactly the right term, and they'll follow your instructions to the letter: they'll try to install using toggles. Let's save them the resulting hassle by being precise.
A good answer is easier with a clear question giving the make and model of everything.
"The biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place." -- G. “Bernie” Shaw
Post 12 made on Sunday March 1, 2020 at 06:53
thecapnredfish
Senior Member
Joined:
Posts:
February 2008
1,397
[Link: toggler.com]

My preferred version of strap toggle, toggles, toggler, toggleR.

If on a steel stud wall, I always like to get at least one stud. Not trusting the 8 drywall screws per panel production builders rely on.
Post 13 made on Sunday March 1, 2020 at 10:55
Ernie Gilman
Yes, That Ernie!
Joined:
Posts:
December 2001
30,104
Hilti makes a version of this that looks identical. I think the first ones I ever saw were from Grattan.

I used to buy bags of these from Home Depot, but there were two problems: I thought they should cost less and the Phillips head bolts were made of soft steel such that the driving bit would sometimes slip out.

The thought then occurred to me, I'm doing this professionally, why not act like it? So I found a source for boxes of 50 Togglers without bolts, selling at a price well below the Home Depot bags of seven or so. I then bought several hundred each of different lengths of 1/4-20 hex head bolts to go with them. I always have Togglers and bolts with me. I added washers, nuts, and lock nuts to the kit and I'm ready for bolting or togglering.

My life was actually made easier by making up this kit because the worry of whether I had togglers was reduced to just keeping the kit box full of stock from my garage.
A good answer is easier with a clear question giving the make and model of everything.
"The biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place." -- G. “Bernie” Shaw
Post 14 made on Monday March 2, 2020 at 20:38
Hi-FiGuy
Super Member
Joined:
Posts:
January 2004
2,836
On March 1, 2020 at 06:53, thecapnredfish said...
Not trusting the 8 drywall screws per panel production builders rely on.

You did not just say that out loud! Say it isn't so.


Jump to


Protected Feature Before you can reply to a message...
You must first register for a Remote Central user account - it's fast and free! Or, if you already have an account, please login now.

Please read the following: Unsolicited commercial advertisements are absolutely not permitted on this forum. Other private buy & sell messages should be posted to our Marketplace. For information on how to advertise your service or product click here. Remote Central reserves the right to remove or modify any post that is deemed inappropriate.

Hosting Services by ipHouse