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Best Cat Cable for HDBaseT
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Post 1 made on Sunday February 23, 2020 at 16:55
crosen
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What cat cable do you pull for HDBaseT? I used to run shielded Cat6. Now I am looking at Cat6a and variants of Cat6a with foil shielding and/or braided shielding.

Putting aside fiber, what is likely to provide the most reliable HDBaseT transmission?

Last edited by crosen on February 23, 2020 17:29.
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Post 2 made on Sunday February 23, 2020 at 19:58
Ranger Home
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It actually runs just fine on cat5 non shielded. Of course, we've moved everything to cat6. I have NEVER run shielded and its never been an issue.

Also not going much HDBaseT anymore either lol.
OP | Post 3 made on Sunday February 23, 2020 at 20:02
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On February 23, 2020 at 19:58, Ranger Home said...
Also not going much HDBaseT anymore either lol.

Is that because you are going VOIP or placing sources locally?
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Post 4 made on Sunday February 23, 2020 at 20:28
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Ran some old cat5e for HDBT at the beach and have had zero issues.

Tried using it for component distribution and had all sorts of issues.
Post 5 made on Sunday February 23, 2020 at 20:46
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No issues with regular cat6 and non EZ ends
Post 6 made on Sunday February 23, 2020 at 21:05
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Have retro'd a ton of jobs with only cat5e in place and had little-to-no issues. Only real issues I have experienced is having to change the termination pinout.

Here in Austraila we primarily use 568A, but HDBT seems to prefer 568B.

Once we change that, they all run flawlessly unless its a poor quality HDBT module, but now that I use only Bluestream or AV Pro Edge, those issues are gone completely.

New installs all get Cat6 with either traditional or EZ terminations, depending what I have on hand at the time.
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Post 7 made on Sunday February 23, 2020 at 21:07
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I've used EZ ends in the past two years despite warnings. Most reliable terminations I find. I think you have to have the newer version of the tool and sharp cutters all the time.
Post 8 made on Sunday February 23, 2020 at 21:19
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I've used shielded CAT5e mostly and then a little shielded CAT6a since the customer had extra available from a camera install. The CAT6a felt like overkill and pain to terminate since the individual conductor insulation was over sized. If there is concerns about distance and powering the far end CAT6 would be a better solution.

I've used mostly ICE cable and EZ ends, but make sure my knife is sharp and get a clean cut.
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Post 9 made on Sunday February 23, 2020 at 21:34
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On February 23, 2020 at 20:02, crosen said...
Is that because you are going VOIP or placing sources locally?

Why would he phone the TV?

Did you mean SDVoE?
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OP | Post 10 made on Monday February 24, 2020 at 07:15
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On February 23, 2020 at 21:34, davidcasemore said...
Why would he phone the TV?

Did you mean SDVoE?

I’m referring to any of the solutions for sending HDMI over Ethernet (SnapAV’s MOIP, Just Add Power’s HDIP, and, yes, any of the solutions based on SDVoE.)
If it's not simple, it's not sufficiently advanced.
Post 11 made on Monday February 24, 2020 at 09:50
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On February 23, 2020 at 20:02, crosen said...
Is that because you are going VOIP or placing sources locally?

MoIP. But I am seeing a trend to do local sources and route TV audio back to amps on smaller jobs.
Post 12 made on Monday February 24, 2020 at 09:52
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On February 23, 2020 at 21:05, HiFiRobbie said...
Here in Austraila we primarily use 568A, but HDBT seems to prefer 568B.


I dont believe this has any barring whatsoever on performance. Hell, you could create you own pinout, as long as they match, how would the equipment even care? Maybe something related to what pair is twisted? Thought this was a dis-proven wives tale.
Post 13 made on Monday February 24, 2020 at 09:52
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On February 23, 2020 at 21:07, mrtristan said...
I've used EZ ends in the past two years despite warnings. Most reliable terminations I find. I think you have to have the newer version of the tool and sharp cutters all the time.

I think its time you sit down and learn how to terminate Cat X properly. Once you learn, and not he EZ way terminating with proper ends is far quicker and easier!

After a botched EZ end killed a transmitter 7 years ago I vowed to never touch them again.
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Post 14 made on Monday February 24, 2020 at 10:06
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All of this, of course, depends on whether you want to deliver a true 4K signal with HDR

Fiber is the answer there, of course.
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Post 15 made on Monday February 24, 2020 at 10:29
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On February 24, 2020 at 09:52, Ranger Home said...
I dont believe this has any barring whatsoever on performance. Hell, you could create you own pinout, as long as they match, how would the equipment even care? Maybe something related to what pair is twisted? Thought this was a dis-proven wives tale.

I thought this as well but after fixing a insurance agent’s office that used the theory that if it’s the same at both ends it’ll work and it didn’t. I’ve always been curious.
As i went room to room the terminations seemed to be consistent, just not functional.
When i was done it was all 568b and working perfectly.
So was it poor quality terminations or was a consistency issue? The world may never know.
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