The Beatles were together for a grand total of seven years. They put out 13 albums. Twenty-Seven of their songs went to #1 on the Billboard 100.   They churned out over 225 songs. You personally know the words to over 100 of them.

That comes out to:

Nearly four #1 hits per year.
2 albums per year.
Over 32 songs per year.

There has never, nor will there ever be a stronger songwriting duo than Lennon & McCartney across all genres of music.  It was a once in a millenia thing.  They knew how to write a song alone, but were even better together.

Then you go and use "Yellow Submarine" as an example of one of their songs to prove your point?  You ought to be ashamed of yourself.  They threw Ringo a bone once, and you're still holding a grudge?

What about...

Revolution
Hey Jude
Strawberry Fields
Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
Here comes the sun
Eleanor Rigby
In My Life
All You Need is Love
Yesterday
We Can Work It Out
Come Together
While My Guitar Gently Weeps
Something In The Way She Moves
Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds
She Loves You (Yeah, Yeah, Yeah)
Penny Lane
Helter Skelter
Day Tripper
Get Back (My Personal Favorite)
Love Me Do
Ticket To Ride
Love Me Do
Can't Buy Me Love
Norwegian Wood
All My Loving
Paperback Writer
I Saw Her Standing There
Blackbird
With A Little Help From My Friends
You've Got To Hide Your Love Away
Lady Madonna
I Feel Fine
Twist & Shout
Eight Days A Week
Ballad of John and Yoko
Back In The U.S.S.R
Got To Get You Into My Life
Don't Let Me Down
I'm So Tired
The End
The Long & Winding Road
Carry That Weight

If they wrote 1/3 of those songs in 7 years it would be impressive enough to claim that they were one of the best songwriting duos ever.  Seven F'ing Years!

Don't forget, they all have their own songs.  George wrote and sang, So did Ringo, and obviously Paul and George.  It's unheard of, can you name another band that does that?

Now, they might not have been your flavor... but overrated?  Ugh, No.   You can literally sing everyone of those songs I listed.

I'll need a full written apology. We both know Fins is nuts...I expect more from you.  Get back JoJo.

If you doubt anything I've said... grab any Beatles album, throw on a set of cans, and you'll be able to hear exactly how good they were.  Not only were they genius, George Martin was as well.

That’s why I said some. But while there is debate of which was the first punk, they were one of the pioneers. However, if you compare them to modern punk, they don’t sound anything like the genre. Just like Ozzy doesn’t fit in modern heavy metal. But these artists changed music. Just like Peart influenced most drummers playing today.

Someone get the fat man a snickers. Clearly he’s hangry.

I didn’t say anything knocking the Beatles talent. I said if they showed up today as a brand new band, they couldn’t survive in the world of auto tune and pop music. The same goes for Elvis, Ozzy, and Hank Williams Sr. That doesn’t suggest they are any less than they are.

Did someone say Snickers?  I'm here for the Snickers.

I'm not sure who she (he?) is.

I want a meet & greet with my favorite K-Pop band - BTS! I have their posters all over my bedroom. I swoon over the lad with the pink hair.

It's known that Jimmy Page played on Donovan's song 'Hurdy Gurdy Man', but some of the others on that song include:

Jimmy Page- guitar
John Paul Jones- arranger and bass guitar
John Bonham- Drums
Allan Holdsworth- guitar, solo

Eddie Kramer- engineer

Donovan had originally wanted Jimi Hendrix on this song.

They would never have become what they were without George Martin.

The documentary on him was fascinating. With a classical background, he introduced strings to the boys. Think Eleanor Rigby. Played piano on some of the cuts.

George is commonly known as the 5th Beatle. You would enjoy the documentary.

Even idiots can see through the crap and the popularity of auto-tune is just lost on me. I hated it when Cher used it on one of her hits around 1998 and I hate it now.

A friend was listening to music one day and occasionally, his daughter would pass through, stop & listen, and move on. This happened a few times before she asked if the music he was listening to was a good representation of that time and he said it was. She shook her head as she walked away, the 15 year old (at the time) said "God, my generation sucks".

I have seen it- if you know Jeff Beck's music, you're probably aware that Martin also produced and arranged the strings.

I would have thought he was too feminine looking for you

There is SO MUCH to say here!

First, the first time you hear a song you probably think it's new and original. That's how old songs become popular again. And you'll identify that version of that song with the time you heard it.

Second, the way music is conceived and presented has changed drastically over the years, so saying anything AT ALL about "of all time" is meaningless.

You cite numbers about the Beatles. I happen to agree that they're the greatest rock group of all time, but then there's an emotional attachment: I was a teenager when they burst on the scene and A LOT of their songs remind me of dear times when I was younger, for instance the time that a dozen people got together to listen to the new album, the white album, start to finish, a couple days after it was released.

Nobody does that any more, for many reasons, but that doesn't mean that there won't be better songwriters or musicians than The Beatles. Or that there weren't better ones in the past.

Looking further back, there was a time when few performers wrote their own material. The Beatles "churned out" over 225 songs, right? In a grand total of seven years.

Irving Berlin wrote songs between 1907 and 1966. Wikipedia says he wrote around 1250 songs. His songs include
God Bless America
Blue Skies
Puttin' On The Ritz (remember Young Frankenstein?)
White Christmas
There's No Business Like Show Business
Let's Face The Music and Dance
How Deep is the Ocean
Let's Have Another Cup of Coffee

Many of those songs were written for Broadway Musicals. Despite their movies, the Beatles can never be said to have created a musical. See, it wasn't the time for that.

And how about George and Ira Gershwin?

I Got Rhythm
Lady Be Good
Someone to Watch Over Me
Fascinatin' Rhythm
Embraceable You
They Can't Take That Away From Me
The Man I Love
Let's Call The Whole Thing Off
Summertime (Look up Janis Joplin's recording of this!)
It Ain't Necessarily So
A Foggy Day
Somebody Loves Me

George Gershwin also wrote music for which Ira didn't write words.
Rhapsody in Blue comes to mind...

And George Gershwin died when he was 39 years old. That would have been 1979 for John Lennon (killed in 1980) and 1982 for McCartney.

So, yes, The Beatles were the best group of all time, but only if you slice up the meaning of "all time" as well as realize that your statement is limited by the fact that you're only talking about rock groups. For music in general, they are titans among other titans, but not the best.

Nice rebuttal Ernie!

Thank you. Though I detect sarcasm I'll let it be.

And to add to it, the new Picard movie uses "Blue Skies," an Irving Berlin song from the late thirties, in its promos.

Movie or series. I thought Picard was a new series on CBS online