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Episode LS subs not waterproof
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Topic: | Episode LS subs not waterproof This thread has 40 replies. Displaying posts 1 through 15. |
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Post 1 made on Saturday August 10, 2019 at 14:50 |
goldenzrule Loyal Member |
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So I have had to replace a few Episode LS subs over the course of the last couple of years. All of them had water in them. I am doing a landscaping project in my house and pulled one of my 12" subs out of the ground and as usually, full of water. Do you guys that sell/install Episode silicon everything up before you install? I don't recall reading anything from Snap stating you should take this step, making it a bit frustrating to have to deal with them as they are very labor intensive to pull out of the ground.
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Post 2 made on Saturday August 10, 2019 at 15:21 |
King of typos Loyal Member |
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What I would do right now, now that it’s out of the ground. Hook it up and light something on fire that will create a lot of smoke. Push some bass audio in the sub and take the smoke around all edges and such to see if there is a leak.
After looking at a couple of pictures. It looks like the cabinet that is seen from the outside is also the cabinet the sounds reverts off of. So I can only imagine all the bass sound creating some leakage at the edges.
Find them and seal them up.
KOT
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Post 3 made on Saturday August 10, 2019 at 15:25 |
jberger Active Member |
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Are you adding pea gravel under the sub? That's part of the installation instructions for water retaining soils.
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Post 4 made on Saturday August 10, 2019 at 19:02 |
Mac Burks (39) Elite Member |
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Sonance subs come with a grease or silicone that you put on both side of the elbow before you install them.
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OP | Post 5 made on Saturday August 10, 2019 at 19:09 |
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On August 10, 2019 at 15:25, jberger said...
Are you adding pea gravel under the sub? That's part of the installation instructions for water retaining soils. I've done both with and without, no difference. I have had water in subs in both scenarios. I believe the instructions do not mention adding pea gravel if memory serves correctly. I tested for air escaping while playing and on the rear of the sub, there is massive amounts of air escaping where it should be sealed. [Link: dropbox.com]Again, every failed sub, which is not a ton, but I think I have 4 or 5, and all have had water. My sub is still working thankfully, but it too had a lot of water in it.
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OP | Post 6 made on Saturday August 10, 2019 at 19:10 |
goldenzrule Loyal Member |
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On August 10, 2019 at 19:02, Mac Burks (39) said...
Sonance subs come with a grease or silicone that you put on both side of the elbow before you install them. No such silicone or grease comes with the Episode subs.
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Post 7 made on Sunday August 11, 2019 at 05:34 |
King of typos Loyal Member |
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Zip System Stretch Tape and silicon are your friends right now.
And would probably be a good idea for future installations too.
KOT
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Post 8 made on Sunday August 11, 2019 at 07:32 |
Mario Loyal Member |
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Mike, that sucks and your experience should be forwarded to Snap.
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Post 9 made on Sunday August 11, 2019 at 09:03 |
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On August 10, 2019 at 19:09, goldenzrule said...
I've done both with and without, no difference. I have had water in subs in both scenarios. I believe the instructions do not mention adding pea gravel if memory serves correctly. I tested for air escaping while playing and on the rear of the sub, there is massive amounts of air escaping where it should be sealed. [Link: dropbox.com]Did that enclosure have any gap when it arrived? Those ends need a lot more screws- if the cover isn't rabbeted, there's no way I would expect it to remain flat and sealed when temperature extremes are hit. I would use a sealant like 3M 4200, not silicone.
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Post 10 made on Sunday August 11, 2019 at 10:19 |
Zohan Super Member |
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Ive had the exact smae results as you Mike. 4 or 5 failed subs in the last 3-4 years. No instructions for pea gravel, the last I looked anyway. No extra grease. Snap doesnt tell you about doing anything extra, its supposed to be a duried burial sub anyway, lol.
Every one I put in I clear silicone in and around both sides where the snorkel meets the tub and also at the 'waterproof' connector where the wire comes out. I havent done all around the tub but it looks like that part is sealed well, the parts I mentioned is where I think the sh1t happens.
I actually have 1 right now I think is bad and was probably calling snap this week.
I am looking to move away from this system and looking at NEAR.
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OP | Post 11 made on Sunday August 11, 2019 at 10:25 |
goldenzrule Loyal Member |
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On August 11, 2019 at 10:19, Zohan said...
Ive had the exact smae results as you Mike. 4 or 5 failed subs in the last 3-4 years. No instructions for pea gravel, the last I looked anyway. No extra grease. Snap doesnt tell you about doing anything extra, its supposed to be a duried burial sub anyway, lol.
Every one I put in I clear silicone in and around both sides where the snorkel meets the tub and also at the 'waterproof' connector where the wire comes out. I havent done all around the tub but it looks like that part is sealed well, the parts I mentioned is where I think the sh1t happens.
I actually have 1 right now I think is bad and was probably calling snap this week.
I am looking to move away from this system and looking at NEAR. Watch the video I posted, it is not sealed well around the tub.
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Post 12 made on Sunday August 11, 2019 at 10:28 |
Zohan Super Member |
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On August 11, 2019 at 10:25, goldenzrule said...
Watch the video I posted, it is not sealed well around the tub. running out now will do later
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Post 13 made on Sunday August 11, 2019 at 11:00 |
Mac Burks (39) Elite Member |
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On August 10, 2019 at 19:10, goldenzrule said...
No such silicone or grease comes with the Episode subs. After thinking about this more...the sonance sub may not have come with the sealeant but i know that the manual said to use it.
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Post 14 made on Sunday August 11, 2019 at 11:02 |
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On August 10, 2019 at 19:09, goldenzrule said...
Lil Jon: "Turn down for what?" Goldenzrule: "So you dont blow the bottom off that sub"
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Post 15 made on Sunday August 11, 2019 at 17:17 |
Zohan Super Member |
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Just watched the video. Im wondering if sealing all the way around would even help if it splits apart like that, thats a pretty good gap. It cant hurt though, so why not....
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