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Looking for a bad ass landscape audio system.
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Post 31 made on Friday July 26, 2019 at 22:43
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For the money, the Episode 8" landscape speakers are pretty good. I just installed the crown amp on a job today and got everything dialed in. 8 of those and a single Bose 360. Huge yard. Sounded great and filled the whole space pretty evenly. Obviously you get some beaming if you are fairly close, but it's hard to minimize that. Plenty of low end for most people.
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Post 32 made on Monday July 29, 2019 at 12:38
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Paradigm landscape series sounds very good.
Post 33 made on Monday July 29, 2019 at 13:30
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^^^^^^This....awesome trickle down technology from their box speakers.
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Post 34 made on Monday July 29, 2019 at 14:17
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On July 26, 2019 at 16:28, designed said...
How do the JBL's compare to an equal sized Mariner? I have a feeling I already know the answer.

I think the larger JBL's with horn loaded compression drivers kill any of the residential landscape speaker systems when you need to push lots of sound out over large areas at high SPL.  If all you need is good sound around the garden, probably any quality speakers currently available will get the job done.

The project photos I posted has a large pool area with a very loud waterfall feature, a tennis court, a couple large green areas and several large garden areas.  I don't remember for sure, but I think there are 20-22 JBL speakers plus the JBL subs and then 4 Atlas Sound 360 garden speakers in some landscaped areas where omni-directional coverage was required.
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Post 35 made on Tuesday August 20, 2019 at 19:34
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On July 26, 2019 at 12:05, osiris said...

I have a location with 4 of the LB4T and 2 of the IG10 running off of a 3XL amplifier, and I think it sounds better and plays louder than a similar space where I have a Sonance LS4T/LS12T/DSP 2-750 system.



How does the IG10 compare to the IG12?
Is there a big difference? On paper the specs are very close.
Post 36 made on Wednesday August 21, 2019 at 09:50
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On August 20, 2019 at 19:34, Zohan said...
How does the IG10 compare to the IG12?
Is there a big difference? On paper the specs are very close.

I’ve never had the chance to compare them in a fairway. The installation I have with the I G10 has them near a stone wall, so there is a lot of reinforcement from that. The projects where I’ve used the IG12s, they are almost all just out in the middle of garden beds with no hard surfaces around them.

The IG12 is BIG and stands out a lot more than the dome caps of the other landscape subs, so you have to be very careful with placement to make it hide.
Post 37 made on Wednesday August 21, 2019 at 13:52
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Leon Owns and sells the TERRA speakers and another nod for Coastal.
I have not done control 29 outdoors, but I have in large classrooms. Good to know.
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Post 38 made on Tuesday August 27, 2019 at 16:19
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On July 25, 2019 at 20:01, SB Smarthomes said...
I've done a bunch of the Episode usually with the 4" sats and multiple 10" or 12" subs and Crown amps.

If the client needs really high SPL, I've done a couple outdoor systems that provide "Club" like sound using the JBL Control High Output speakers (Control 29, Control 28, Control 25 and Control SB2210 Subs).

I haven't heard a sat/sub "Landscape" style system that can match the JBL setup, but the larger JBL speakers and subs require a lot more thought to conceal.

How do those JBL's sound without a sub?
Post 39 made on Sunday September 8, 2019 at 11:18
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On July 29, 2019 at 14:17, SB Smarthomes said...
I think the larger JBL's with horn loaded compression drivers kill any of the residential landscape speaker systems when you need to push lots of sound out over large areas at high SPL.  If all you need is good sound around the garden, probably any quality speakers currently available will get the job done.

The project photos I posted has a large pool area with a very loud waterfall feature, a tennis court, a couple large green areas and several large garden areas.  I don't remember for sure, but I think there are 20-22 JBL speakers plus the JBL subs and then 4 Atlas Sound 360 garden speakers in some landscaped areas where omni-directional coverage was required.

We've done a number of landscape systems that are fine for background music and whatnot, but have also done some JBL installs for "simpler" systems where we've just done the Control 28s. Sound great even without a sub. I can't imagine how much better the 29s with the sub sound, and think this is the only real solution for "Vegas Pool Party" SPL and bass energy.
Post 40 made on Tuesday September 10, 2019 at 16:16
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James and Coastal are the 2 "badass" options that come to mind immediately. We use Episode and Sonance primarily, but if someone wanted to kick it up a few notches (including budget), I'd look at Coastal or James.
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Post 41 made on Wednesday September 11, 2019 at 08:56
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I haven't heard any of the James systems yet, but have sat in on a demo of Coastal.

Coastal did sound pretty damn good and have some different, modern-designed, looking speakers.

I'll still say that an all JBL C29 system sounds soooo much better.
Post 42 made on Thursday October 10, 2019 at 15:26
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On July 29, 2019 at 14:17, SB Smarthomes said...
I think the larger JBL's with horn loaded compression drivers kill any of the residential landscape speaker systems when you need to push lots of sound out over large areas at high SPL.  If all you need is good sound around the garden, probably any quality speakers currently available will get the job done.

The project photos I posted has a large pool area with a very loud waterfall feature, a tennis court, a couple large green areas and several large garden areas.  I don't remember for sure, but I think there are 20-22 JBL speakers plus the JBL subs and then 4 Atlas Sound 360 garden speakers in some landscaped areas where omni-directional coverage was required.

I'm really glad you posted this. I had a customer who wanted to push Sonos into a big yard (mounted to the wall on a patio). I warned him it may not fill the yard with just two speakers and a Sonos amp. I punted on the Sonos Sonance outdoors after being disappointed and went with a pair of JBL Control 28-1 8" units. Holy s&@t, those things put out! Even off a Sonos Connect Amp they filled the entire yard without a sweat.
Post 43 made on Thursday October 10, 2019 at 21:49
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I really like the Near LB8's as well. Those sound great, even without a sub. That's probably what I'll use in my own yard when we redo everything.
Post 44 made on Friday October 11, 2019 at 09:14
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On July 26, 2019 at 15:26, SB Smarthomes said...

Near the bottom, the copper is wrapped in bitchathane for more water proofing and the post is set in concrete.

You mean 'Bituthene', right?
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Post 45 made on Friday October 11, 2019 at 09:15
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On October 10, 2019 at 21:49, kwkshift said...
I really like the Near LB8's as well. Those sound great, even without a sub. That's probably what I'll use in my own yard when we redo everything.

Good to know.
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