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Wire Trim for Future Outdoor Camera
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Post 1 made on Saturday May 18, 2019 at 10:53
crosen
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I have a cat6 camera cable (plus one cat6 spare) running above an outside door on a brick wall. Currently, the cables just poke out the brick - there is no outdoor conduit.

It's time for trim, but the client wants to hold off on installing a camera at this time.

So, I figure what I want for trim is a paintable, visually non-intrusive weather proof box that can house the 18" of cable I want to leave for the future camera.

What I'm wondering is this: is there some sort of box that can double as the mounting base for a future camera, given that I don't know whether that camera will be bullet or dome, let alone what model it will be?
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Post 2 made on Saturday May 18, 2019 at 11:58
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On May 18, 2019 at 10:53, crosen said...
I have a cat6 camera cable (plus one cat6 spare) running above an outside door on a brick wall. Currently, the cables just poke out the brick - there is no outdoor conduit.

It's time for trim, but the client wants to hold off on installing a camera at this time.

So, I figure what I want for trim is a paintable, visually non-intrusive weather proof box that can house the 18" of cable I want to leave for the future camera.

What I'm wondering is this: is there some sort of box that can double as the mounting base for a future camera, given that I don't know whether that camera will be bullet or dome, let alone what model it will be?

Bullet or dome, won't it be surface-mounted in either case?

I usually buy some kind of material that won't degrade and holds screws well, like solid plastic, Trex, Azek, etc and make a piece that looks good in that position. If the cable doesn't need to come out, I hide it behind the piece and seal it after I'm done. That way, I can still chip out the masonry to make room for cables.
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Post 3 made on Saturday May 18, 2019 at 13:13
Ernie Gilman
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You'll definitely want to protect the ends of the wires from corrosion and water ingress. In this case, I might work some goop (glue) or silicone into the end of the cable to cover the little bit of exposed copper at the ends of the wires, and to fill the space around the wires inside the jacket.

Sunlight degrades plastics, so you'll also want the entire wire out of the sun, or at least the last couple of feet of wire.
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Post 4 made on Saturday May 18, 2019 at 13:46
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What about a recessed single gang box with an extension?

So this gets recessed... [Link: homedepot.com]


This goes on top with a cover plate... [Link: homedepot.com]

Remove the extension when its time to mount your camera and use one of these to install the camera [Link: snapav.com]
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OP | Post 5 made on Saturday May 18, 2019 at 14:02
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On May 18, 2019 at 13:46, Mac Burks (39) said...
What about a recessed single gang box with an extension?

So this gets recessed... [Link: homedepot.com]

This goes on top with a cover plate... [Link: homedepot.com]

Remove the extension when its time to mount your camera and use one of these to install the camera [Link: snapav.com]

That seems like an excellent solution.
If it's not simple, it's not sufficiently advanced.
Post 6 made on Saturday May 18, 2019 at 19:26
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If the cable is already poking through the brick you would use a surface mount box. I would choose single gang.
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Post 7 made on Saturday May 18, 2019 at 19:39
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This:

[Link: aimedia.co]

(Comes in white or black) It says it mounts to a flush-mount box but it could be attached directly to the brick.

Then:

[Link: aimedia.co]

Until you're ready for the camera. Comes in whitened is paintable
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Post 8 made on Sunday May 19, 2019 at 09:59
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Ive had this happen quite a few times. One option is take a defective camera you have laying around and mount it. They seem to like that. You can also buy fake cams for just a few bucks. At least gives the allusion that there is surveillance installed to would be thieves. Otherwise, like others said, mount a box, which will most likely be temporary.
Post 9 made on Sunday May 19, 2019 at 10:23
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Why not just use a round camera junction box from whatever vendor you normally use, mounted over the wire coming out of the brick ?
Post 10 made on Sunday May 19, 2019 at 10:33
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On May 18, 2019 at 13:13, Ernie Gilman said...
You'll definitely want to protect the ends of the wires from corrosion and water ingress. In this case, I might work some goop (glue) or silicone into the end of the cable to cover the little bit of exposed copper at the ends of the wires, and to fill the space around the wires inside the jacket.

Sunlight degrades plastics, so you'll also want the entire wire out of the sun, or at least the last couple of feet of wire.

Heat N Seal shrink tubing is my choice.
My mechanic told me, "I couldn't repair your brakes, so I made your horn louder."
Post 11 made on Sunday May 19, 2019 at 10:49
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The problem with mounting a camera box is that the camera you will eventually buy might not have the mounting style you choose today. You'll want to do as little damage to the surface as possible.
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