I dont see ATT wanting out of it as well. But, thats just opinion. They are pushing their cable customers to dump cable and go with satellite. That appears to be their one of their plans. Less costs over all maybe?-not dealing with old cable. They even appoached uverse customers to get them to switch. My first thought was they wanted out of uverse not satellite.

That doesn't seem quite right.
I don't have a link to all the articles about this over the last few months. But at some point recently, AT&T made the statement that they were not going to replace any of the satellites for DirecTV as they aged and/or failed. They have also been pushing consumers to the 'DirecTV NOW' streaming service - not the satellite service.

Opinion part: It seems to me they are killing off the satellite service and wanting to build the streaming service. The board members or CEOs are probably thinking how streaming is the future, so they want to have/build a strong streaming service for that.
Totally forgetting that one of the big things about satellite, is you can get it anywhere. Including where internet service is to slow for a good streaming experience or doesn't exist at all. But AT&T is not run by the brightest people, they are pretty stupid over there.

Ya, they did make a public statement about not replacing satellites, I remember seeing that also. I wonder though, with SpaceX now able to launch much cheaper, it might change the costs of operation back in T's favor so it could be that they rethink that.

The HS17 is the server, Deca, and power injector all in one so you cannot physically connect two of them to one dish.

So my client has 7 TV locations.
5 Clients (Model #?)
1 HS17
1 HR24

What head(LNB)/head end do i need?

As mentioned earlier by someone else, you can NOT have an HR24 on the same account as the HS17. They will not activate any legacy receivers on an HS17 account.
Also, if you have 7 TV locations, you miscalculated. Because the HS17 is a "server". It can not hook up to a TV itself, it has no video outputs. So you will need (1) HS17 and (7) clients.

The current SWM LNB has 13 tuner support on the single wire. If the wiring is home run, then you just need a SWM 8way splitter. Power for the system comes from the HS17, which has to be hooked up to the power passing port (red port).

Hmmm... Yes. Yes you can.
[Link: solidsignal.com]

Ok. I understand.
lets throw a curve ball. same Client same install

the main house we order the HS17(1) and Clients(7). and on the same account we have a guest house and 2 Barns.

Old Barn Has (1) TV and a Dish
New Barn Has (2) TV's and a Dish
Guest House has (4) TV's and a Dish.

If a Legacy Receiver Cant be on the account do I need (3) more HS17 and (7) more Clients?
FYI- The LAN covers the whole property.

That is a pickle you have there. Because remember, they will not allow but 1 HS17 on an account. So no, that will not work.

I would NOT use an HS17 on this setup. I would use an HR54 with 3 clients for the Guest House. And 2 H25's for the New Barn and 1 H25 for the Old Barn. The H25's will not be able to view the recorded shows from the Guest House. Unless you can either:
1) Run coax from the Guest House to the Barns and keep it all on 1 dish (same Deca Network).
2) Or get the H25's on the same LAN network as the Guest House and enable network in the menu. Been awhile since I did something like that, hopefully that is still an option. I would check the Sat forum boards to see if that is still doable.

Note: What is the customer expecting as far as 4K goes? Because they could get 1 4K client in the guest house. But to do more than 1 4K stream at a time, would require the HS17.
Also note, it might be possible to get client boxes to work over the network (if you can get the network to the Barns and Guest House all the same) by converting DECA to ethernet, then back to DECA again. I have never tried something crazy like that, it is unsupported, and you would need to do a lot of research of the sat forum boards like Satellite Guys, DBSTalk, etc. I'm sure someone there has tried it.

Thank you Brad for your help on this.

So currently we have the system as
Main House HS17 and (7) Clients
Guest House HR54(1), Clients (3) - I think there is HR24(1) and H25(3) Currently.
Old Barn H25(1) thats what is currently there.
New Barn H25(2)- Currently there is a HR24(1) and H25(1) Effectively the same.

Do you see this working?

It is already activated? Using 2 accounts?
As everyone has mentioned, they will NOT activate anything other than clients on an HS17 based system. So the customer is going with 2 accounts?

I have been trying to get a client's yacht set up and saying that ATT is killing it is a huge understatement. I'm working with KVH and all I got from ATT was a huge headache from the runaround. Absofreakinglutely clueless. I got fed up with the last guy yesterday and asked for the Retention department, which they call 'Loyalty'- a woman answered and she's in Utah! Got me set in only a few minutes, too.

I have figured out what they use as their business model- if you have seen 'Dodgeball- The Movie':

What's our motto?

Aim low.

In an e-mail to KVH, I made a comment about ATT being as close to a monopoly as we have and her response-

"The entire half-million land mobile (RVs and trailers) and marine customer base represents less than 1 percent of their business. How’s that for a staggering thought on the subject of monopolies?"

I was told that marine and RVs don't get to use Genie. I would imagine that if the activation is done through KVH and others, it does work. ATT sucks. I'm about to stop dealing with them on any level.

ATT also told me that specific models can't be ordered, they just ship the HD receivers. That's effing great, but if a system is already in place and the H25 with the RF kit and mount are the only size that fit and are used because the receivers are intentionally hidden, the H24 WILL NOT work because they won't necessarily fit and they don't use RF but ATT doesn't give a rat's butt about that, they just want to do things the way they think is OK. I see Dish as a beneficiary of this.

I guess they will have to.
currently the main house has a genie and 3 clients and a HR24

Is there a DirecTV # I can call to get this figured out with out bugging you guys. When I call its a Customer service/sales Person?

thanks,
Flandon

You are wise not to say anything. haha

But yes AT&T did merge/ purchase Directv in JULY 2015 and are now wanting to separate again. talks have been going on awhile that both are suffering due to the merge. there are so many changes that are affecting retailers especially the one that work with integrators. DWS was officially retired March 26 and retailers were forced to either use OPUS or Sara plus to enter orders. We cant do upgrades or accounts with more than 8 receivers , it has been a complete nightmare .I will post as I receive the updates.