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Best options for smooth WiFi handoffs?
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Post 31 made on Friday February 15, 2019 at 23:12
dsp81
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On February 15, 2019 at 17:53, highfigh said...
That leads to a question- how are we to set up a WiFi network when the house or room is empty, without knowing how their house full of guests will affect it when they have a party, fundraiser or some kind of presentation that needs a quality network connection?

I guess it's best to make the signal so strong people glow when they leave.

Walls are always going to be the biggest impediment to signal propagation. You can place APs in larger rooms or areas that are important. You could place an AP in every room as long as you’re mindful of your channel reuse plan and signal levels. In very dense environments (like auditoriums) you will see multiple APs installed to handle the client density or to improve throughput.

Your cell size is dependent on a few factors, but this gives you an idea of what different data rates will do to signal propagation.

[Link: cisco.com]
Post 32 made on Saturday February 16, 2019 at 10:41
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On February 15, 2019 at 23:12, dsp81 said...
Walls are always going to be the biggest impediment to signal propagation. You can place APs in larger rooms or areas that are important. You could place an AP in every room as long as you’re mindful of your channel reuse plan and signal levels. In very dense environments (like auditoriums) you will see multiple APs installed to handle the client density or to improve throughput.

Your cell size is dependent on a few factors, but this gives you an idea of what different data rates will do to signal propagation.

[Link: cisco.com]

An auditorium has a higher ceiling and that's an easy way to cover the area- I was referring to places with lower ceiling height, no way to locate APs above and no way to prevent people blocking the signal from the AP at one end of the room when someone is trying to use it at the other. I don't know of many people who want a lot of visible APs spread around their house.

Maybe it's more of an "educate the customer' issue- I have not yet discussed this with anyone who seemed interested in paying the Ruckus price for home WiFi, even if they have it at their office building and can easily pay for it. The way WiFi is described in ads, WiFi sounds like it cures acne, STDs, IBS, Gout and anything else that ails people. The fact that some devices don't even have an ethernet port reinforces this and forces people to use WiFi networks that may already be unable to handle the traffic.

Last edited by highfigh on March 19, 2019 08:49.
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Post 33 made on Saturday February 16, 2019 at 12:41
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I’ve had great success with the Ubiquiti In-Wall access points in home installations. No, they are not quite as potent as the larger ceiling mounted units, but a nearby In-Wall is more effective than a distant ceiling unit.
Post 34 made on Saturday February 16, 2019 at 15:40
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On February 16, 2019 at 10:41, highfigh said...
An auditorium has a higher ceiling and that's an easy way to cover the area- I was referring to places with lower ceiling height, no way to locate APs above and no way to prevent people blocking the signal from the AP at one end of the room when someone is trying to use it at the other. I don';t know of many people who want a lot of visible APs spread around their house.

My point with the auditorium comment was that you can have multiple APs in close proximity as long as you pay attention to channel planning and cell sizing. Two in-walls on either end of the room would cover you if you were concerned about obstructions in the middle of the room.
Post 35 made on Saturday February 16, 2019 at 18:39
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On February 16, 2019 at 15:40, dsp81 said...
My point with the auditorium comment was that you can have multiple APs in close proximity as long as you pay attention to channel planning and cell sizing. Two in-walls on either end of the room would cover you if you were concerned about obstructions in the middle of the room.

I think it would be a lot easier if I didn't work on so many old homes that were built from materials that are very unfriendly WRT RF. Metal screen used for lath to hold plaster (with sand in it- it's more like mortar), heavy masonry walls, heavy plaster ceilings with said metal screen- it's hard enough to get RF to pass but if cabling has to be run, it can be pretty ugly.
My mechanic told me, "I couldn't repair your brakes, so I made your horn louder."
OP | Post 36 made on Tuesday March 19, 2019 at 02:39
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Here are a few useful links related to WiFi roaming technologies (802.11r/k/v):

[Link: support.apple.com]

[Link: community.ubnt.com]

[Link: community.ubnt.com]

Last edited by crosen on March 20, 2019 03:45.
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