Hello, I am very new to Pronto after programming some of the older ones several years ago. I am very interested in programming the TSU9600 with RFX-9600 processor and have programmed about 80% of it. I am very new to Prontoscript and don't have any PS programming ability as of now.

My question is, how do I avoid the 25 second delay my projector takes to warm up when I press an acivity macro? The first time is fine - the next time however I would like to avoid that. Running a sensor is out of the question for me as the walls have been closed up. Other companies like URC and RTI at least have some variables or power tracking in place eventhough it's not bulletproof. But I would be willing to have that now compared to the options I have.

I also wondered if possibly I could open a trigger (which I wasnt using anyway) and check for it to "fake out" the system. I would send an open trigger Relay 1 every time a power on command is sent by the projector and check for it as a way to basically if then a delay, but then I found out you cant do an if then with a relay. You could do it with a power sensor, but again don't have one.

Does anyone know of a way I could get around this other than powering on the system first? I have music sources that I might necceasirly want to power on when I start a session.

I'm surprised that Pronto does not have a way to do this (not just for power, but for page jumps, etc.)

Any help or insight as to how I can do this would be greatly appreciated.

Regards,
Jimmy Bell

You can do power tracking using prontoscript.

What brand is the projector? Look in the manual what it says while it is powering up. I know that the Hitachi ones don't respond to rs-232 while they're warming up and you better not touch them for the first couple of seconds.

If you need power sensing you just get a device that senses the power consumption change on the power cord of the projector.

What about taking the projector controls out of the activities you don't need it in?

I don't understand the trigger part (what do you mean by trigger?).

I'm sorry but you provided little information (regarding to the length of the text) of what you'd really like to achieve and what options you have.

Some devices have a discrete power on and discrete power off codes in the database or elseware. If your activity powers up the projector every time you enter it, use a discrete power on code . It will only turn the power on once this way, no matter how many times you enter the activity.

If there is a wait screen (animation) on the remote , just disable it.

See this thread please.

[Link: remotecentral.com]

I have provided an example of how to do this with inputs from RFX9600 and also via System Globals (setting variables).

Ooops - Forgot to add link - Editing on 20100705

The RFX9600 can give you 4 "hardware" flags if you are not using relays/powersense ports.
You can wire the 5v output from the RFX, into a relay and then into a power sense input.

Whenever you do projector power on, close the relay (so voltage goes through it) and the power sense will come on - now your projector is on. Likewise, open the relay when you do projector power off.
You can now use that powersense input in your projector on macro, and do "if power sense port is open (not sensing), send projector power on command and wait 25 seconds"... If the projector is already on and the power sense is sensing voltage, it will skip the command and the delay.

No prontoscript required.

I haven't really got into the new macro facility, so excuse this dumb question: how do you do an 'if statement' without prontoscript?

Guy Palmer,

Using PEP2, at the top of the action list panel, check out the tools. You can set relays and sense power.

There is a constant voltage output on the RFX9600. This can be wired through a relay contact and sensed by an input pin. As you switch the relay, the power sense pin will toggle and an action will execute or not.

This will not be a perfect scheme because someone could use the projector's native remote or press the power button causing, the relay state to be out of sync.

Yes, I can see that. But I don't see how one makes execution of another action conditional on the result.

Guy Palmer,

Select an action for a device that uses the RFX-9600, then click on the "Add Power Sense" tool.

The whole procedure is clinky. It is much better in ProntoScript, but if this is the only case where you might need ProntoScript, I think that it is be easier to struggle with the tool.

Buzz,

IIRC, the 'Add Power Sense' is ONLY available in PEPV1. In PEPV2, you have to edit the component in MyDatabase and specify Power Sense Actions at the Component Function level. This changed drastically between PEPV1 and PEPV2, much to my disappointment.

Buzz,

Thanks.

Here is another method of adding power sense in PEP2:
- First link your project component to the extender (select your projector on bottom left and tick the extender checkbox on the bottom right of the screen).
- In the button properties screen - actions you now set an infrared code to be sent (this is the code you want to send conditionally, only this is not visible yet).
- After adding, highlight this infrared function and now you will see that the "power sense" icon becomes visible (not greyed out anymore). Click it and enable the power sense for this infrared code.