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tsu9200 price drop- anyone using these remotes?
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OP | Post 46 made on Saturday January 3, 2009 at 20:54
motech
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clients still having drop out errors on remote . .
how annoying.

cant disable this?
i tried a different channel,
he's seperated by a thin wall of sheetrock,
and about 15 feet ..

im gonna try and move it to behind the tv. .

but still a pain that the error comes up all the time.
he says 1 out of 5 times it comes up (button presses)

any other solutions?
Post 47 made on Monday January 5, 2009 at 19:49
carpecervisi
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Man, I wish I would have seen this thread a few weeks ago. Amazon has them at $175 now. D'oh.
Post 48 made on Tuesday January 6, 2009 at 16:18
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On January 3, 2009 at 20:54, motech said...
clients still having drop out errors on remote . .
how annoying.

cant disable this?
i tried a different channel,

he's seperated by a thin wall of sheetrock,

and about 15 feet ..

im gonna try and move it to behind the tv. .

but still a pain that the error comes up all the time.
he says 1 out of 5 times it comes up (button presses)

any other solutions?

By drop outs you mean RF "command Failures"? You know how to check signal strength right? I see these more than I'd like, but usually 1 in about 20-30 commands. It was worse before I upgraded the firmware. The Command failure rate does go up near the edge of the range.

My latest theory (for in range failures) is that the unit goes into sleep mode if not used and takes a second to wake up. My failures are usually the first command after laying it down for awhile. When upstairs and separated by about 25 feet, a floor and 2 sheetrock walls it is about 1 in 10. The signal strength is on the edge in that situation.
OP | Post 49 made on Thursday January 8, 2009 at 12:20
motech
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ill just wire it to right behind the tv . .
that should help..

i wish you could disable the warning ,
like on nevo etc . .
Post 50 made on Friday January 9, 2009 at 14:02
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Considering a Harmony replacement.

Can the 9200 remember device states like the Harmony?
For example:
- Devices with no discrete on/off commands.
- Devices that can only cycle through inputs.

Can the 9200 switch between activities in one button press, and correctly turn whatever needed on/off, use the right inputs/outputs, etc?

Does the 9200 offer more fine-tuning to the customization than the Harmony?
How advanced can the programming be?

Thank you.
Logitech Harmony remotes are Crippleware.
Post 51 made on Saturday January 10, 2009 at 01:02
ac3boy
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They are coming out with a 9300. It will compliment the 94/96/98 and be able to use all the extenders they do. I told a Philips rep at a training class that I will not be able to implement the entire Pronto family until they come out with a cheap "kids room/bar/My drunk friend dropped it while playing pool" remote. We currently use the 810 for this on UR installs with access to all the better remotes can use. After this he blabbed about the 9300 coming out.

He did not give a time frame but little birdies have told me it is soon.

Cheers, John.
Post 52 made on Saturday January 10, 2009 at 01:04
ac3boy
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On January 1, 2009 at 19:45, motech said...
oddly,

some devices worked from 1remote,

some didnt.

the sony blu ray device was the issue (from 1remote database)
(would not let me donwload config to remote)

but the pioneer plasma 2008 (from 1remote db) worked fine.

That is funny. I just did a small HT job and I could use the Sony BluRay all devices but could not use the Panny Plasma all devices. Very strange.
Post 53 made on Thursday January 15, 2009 at 20:38
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On January 9, 2009 at 14:02, alexo said...
Considering a Harmony replacement.

Can the 9200 remember device states like the Harmony?
For example:
- Devices with no discrete on/off commands.
- Devices that can only cycle through inputs.

No it doesn't but that doest matter as much any more. The reality is that over time more manufacturers are providing discretes for most functions even when they have toggle selects.

Harmony doesn't use magic to determine the on/off state - I presume its user synchronized state tracking.

You might consider downloading the software and checking out the 1Remote download to see if discretes exist for your components.

Can the 9200 switch between activities in one button press,
and correctly turn whatever needed on/off, use the right
inputs/outputs, etc?

Absolutely. You have to program it to do so.

Does the 9200 offer more fine-tuning to the customization
than the Harmony?

Thats too vague to respond to but most likely. Name something specific that you think the 9200 needs to do. Keep in mind this like a structured programing version of the Pronto Series until the Pro series.

How advanced can the programming be?

Again a little vague, its 7 out of 10. If you want animated icons it wont do that.

Thank you.
Post 54 made on Thursday January 15, 2009 at 20:43
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On January 10, 2009 at 01:04, ac3boy said...
That is funny. I just did a small HT job and I could use
the Sony BluRay all devices but could not use the Panny
Plasma all devices. Very strange.

You might check my 9200 download problems posted here elsewhere - very elusive problem, usually related to non specific delays on the general macro and power buttons.
Post 55 made on Thursday January 15, 2009 at 20:48
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On January 10, 2009 at 01:02, ac3boy said...
They are coming out with a 9300. It will compliment the
94/96/98 and be able to use all the extenders they do.
I told a Philips rep at a training class that I will not
be able to implement the entire Pronto family until they
come out with a cheap "kids room/bar/My drunk friend dropped
it while playing pool" remote. We currently use the 810
for this on UR installs with access to all the better
remotes can use. After this he blabbed about the 9300
coming out.

He did not give a time frame but little birdies have told
me it is soon.

Cheers, John.

Well that explains PART of the Amazon end of 2008 price drop to $103 but not the bounce back to $175. They will probably release it 60 days after the US economy recovers in a ...... (Hopefully soon).
Post 56 made on Saturday January 17, 2009 at 05:57
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Anyone have an idea why the one way control doesn't work for me?

See this thread: [Link: remotecentral.com]

Thanks!!
Post 57 made on Tuesday January 20, 2009 at 09:58
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Thank you for your reply, spamslayer.

Some notes below:

On January 15, 2009 at 20:38, spamslayer said...
No it doesn't but that doest matter as much any more.
The reality is that over time more manufacturers are providing
discretes for most functions even when they have toggle
selects.

It may not matter to you but it does matter to those that want to control older equipment that does not respond to discrete codes.

Harmony doesn't use magic to determine the on/off state
- I presume its user synchronized state tracking.

I don't know how they implemented it exactly, but eventually it boils down to a bunch of persistent variables.

Can you suggest a remote can do that? Preferably in the 9200 price range (and with lots of hard buttons).

You might consider downloading the software and checking
out the 1Remote download to see if discretes exist for
your components.

I've been asking about discrete commands for my components for a while. Got some suggestions, asked the Harmony support to program them in, never got the equipment to respond as expected.

As I understand it, a lot of the devices in the same line use the same IR "language" but not every device responds to every command.

Thats too vague to respond to but most likely. Name something
specific that you think the 9200 needs to do. Keep in
mind this like a structured programing version of the
Pronto Series until the Pro series.

Sorry, I am not familiar with the terminology.

Again a little vague, its 7 out of 10. If you want animated
icons it wont do that.

How will animated icons help control my equipment?

Basically, what I am looking for is something like the Harmony but with macros, off-line programmability and the ability to program myself what currently can only be done by the Logitech tech support on their end.

And yes, "synchronized state tracking" or suchlike is important.

Thank you,
Alex.
Logitech Harmony remotes are Crippleware.
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