Your Universal Remote Control Center
RemoteCentral.com
Complete Control by URC Forum - View Post
Previous section Next section Up level
Up level
The following page was printed from RemoteCentral.com:

Login:
Pass:
 
 

Topic:
MX-890 / MRF-300 LG C1 Power Off Inconsistent
This thread has 7 replies. Displaying all posts.
Post 1 made on Sunday January 2, 2022 at 12:58
arcsum68
Junior Member
Joined:
Posts:
January 2022
6
Hey all,

I have always been able to figure out my issues using this forum, but this one has me stumped and I need some help. Time to register! Just some quick background, I have had URC remotes for years since I have a buddy who is an installer, but I have always done my own programming. I tend to keep devices for a long time so I can go years between needing to change things, keeps me pretty rusty so please keep that in mind.

I had an MRF-350 but it recently crapped out so I swapped in the old 300. I did buy a replacement on eBay but it had bad zones, so still working with the 300 though its mated with the antenna from the 350.

When I power off the system via a macro the TV is not always turning off. I figured I would just duplicate the command in the macro and it is still not always turning off. I thought there was a way to increase the hold time of a button but I am not seeing that so maybe I was imaging things or that was available on an older remote.

This is obviously not great for WAF and I really would like to figure out a solution other than throwing in that command 10 more times so one of them sticks.

Any suggestions to get a more reliable experience?

Thanks for now and many years of past advice.
Post 2 made on Sunday January 2, 2022 at 13:05
goldenzrule
Loyal Member
Joined:
Posts:
July 2007
8,428
Have you tested the off command via a button press rather than a via a macro to see if it is consistent?  Do you have the emitter level turned up on the MRF base?  Was this working fine with the old base before you swapped without any programming changes when you made the switch to the new base?
OP | Post 3 made on Monday January 3, 2022 at 11:22
arcsum68
Junior Member
Joined:
Posts:
January 2022
6
Hey, sorry for the delay getting back to you.
Yes, I did test the button solo and literally 100% of the time if I just press the off macro again the TV will turn off as expected. Almost makes me wonder if it needs to be turned off last and should I remove the first macro off command. CEC should not be a factor as I have that turned off.
I have the emitter level set to the factory default as I have never had to adjust those in the 10+ years I have been using URC remotes, but I can definitely try cranking it up, but that still would not explain why it always turns off on the 2nd macro off press.
The base went out shortly after the TV and receiver were replaced. Receiver was the same brand so most used functions were still fine and I had not yet gotten around to programming the TV with either base as this all happened right before Christmas and we were hosting at our house.

Thanks again, let me know if you still think adjusting the IR blaster level should be a consideration.
Post 4 made on Wednesday January 5, 2022 at 00:16
Brad Humphrey
Select Member
Joined:
Posts:
February 2004
2,341
Most of the time, the remote is already pointed at the TV anyway. For that reason, I rarely connect the video display to the RF base station when using URC CCP. I just have the TV commands transmit straight from the remote to the TV.

"This would probably save you a lot of time & frustration doing it this way."

K.I.S.S. = Keep It Simple Stupid.
OP | Post 5 made on Wednesday January 5, 2022 at 10:48
arcsum68
Junior Member
Joined:
Posts:
January 2022
6
This TV does not use an IR remote, it does have an IR sensor but its located where the power button is facing down. I have also found that by keeping everything RF my battery lasts much longer than when I used to have a mixed environment.

Last night I had my AVR and TV not respond to the macro, so I am wondering if this is more of a 300 vs 350 issue as I never had problems with the 350 until it totally crapped out. That would be odd though, since its consistently the TV. RF antenna shows no interference but it is literally right next to a Ubiquiti AP crammed into my built in A/V cabinet.
Post 6 made on Sunday January 9, 2022 at 00:03
Brad Humphrey
Select Member
Joined:
Posts:
February 2004
2,341
On January 5, 2022 at 10:48, arcsum68 said...
This TV does not use an IR remote, it does have an IR sensor but its located where the power button is facing down. I have also found that by keeping everything RF my battery lasts much longer than when I used to have a mixed environment.

1) MX-890 is a rechargeable remote. After you are done using it for the day, most people put the remote in the charging stand for the night. So battery life should not be an issue. If your battery can't last 12-16 hours off the charger... you need a new battery, because something is very wrong with it. Or something wrong with the remote that it is draining the battery when it shouldn't. "That is NOT normal behavior".

2) That LG TV should pickup and respond to IR signals from just about anywhere in the room. If it can't do that, then again I say... you have something very wrong with your equipment! Because you can literally bounce the IR signal off the walls* from the MX-890 and it should work that TV.

*If the walls are a light color. Room not more than 400 sqft. And no fluorescent lighting.
OP | Post 7 made on Friday March 4, 2022 at 10:30
arcsum68
Junior Member
Joined:
Posts:
January 2022
6
On January 9, 2022 at 00:03, Brad Humphrey said...
1) MX-890 is a rechargeable remote. After you are done using it for the day, most people put the remote in the charging stand for the night. So battery life should not be an issue. If your battery can't last 12-16 hours off the charger... you need a new battery, because something is very wrong with it. Or something wrong with the remote that it is draining the battery when it shouldn't. "That is NOT normal behavior".

2) That LG TV should pickup and respond to IR signals from just about anywhere in the room. If it can't do that, then again I say... you have something very wrong with your equipment! Because you can literally bounce the IR signal off the walls* from the MX-890 and it should work that TV.

*If the walls are a light color. Room not more than 400 sqft. And no fluorescent lighting.

Sorry for the delays, I have been troubleshooting.

In response to your comments.

1. My battery gets charged 1 or 2 times per week max, no problems with my battery. My point about IR and RF was that my battery lasts longer if I use only RF vs a mixture of both, nothing extreme but noticeable.
2. My TV is right above a mantle that blocks bouncing signals. But even if it was not, the RF should work the way it was designed.† I should not have to implement work arounds.

Since I last responded I was able to score 2x each of the MRF-350 and 250 antennas that someone was selling untested for cheap. Both worked so I swapped both out just to make sure there were no issues with either the antenna or the base. I then experimented with different RF channels thinking maybe the OLED was causing a different type of interference than the Panny Plasma.† The light on the antenna shows no interference at all mind you.

Long story short, I am still having the issue where the TV does not reliably turn off.† It ALWAYS turns on, but sometimes does not turn off.

Open to suggestions and might get to the point of turning IR on for the TV.† Despite the fact that I have been on RF only for MANY years I do still tend to point the remote towards the equipment so maybe one will catch?† Though I doubt it the way my setup is configured especially with the blaster blocking part of the sensor.

Thanks all.
Post 8 made on Friday March 4, 2022 at 13:57
goldenzrule
Loyal Member
Joined:
Posts:
July 2007
8,428
1) †....
2) †....
3) †....
4) †Respond with results quicker than 2 months down the line

Last edited by goldenzrule on March 7, 2022 21:47.


Jump to


Protected Feature Before you can reply to a message...
You must first register for a Remote Central user account - it's fast and free! Or, if you already have an account, please login now.

Please read the following: Unsolicited commercial advertisements are absolutely not permitted on this forum. Other private buy & sell messages should be posted to our Marketplace. For information on how to advertise your service or product click here. Remote Central reserves the right to remove or modify any post that is deemed inappropriate.

Hosting Services by ipHouse