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DirecTV channel buttons repeat
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Post 1 made on Friday August 24, 2012 at 10:28
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DirecTV channel buttons repeat even after repeat feature has been disabled. Line of sight IR with MX-900. I have tried different DirecTV files in the MX-900, new batteries and also tried MX-980 to no avail. In the past, disabling the repeat feature has cured this problem. Please help.
 
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Post 2 made on Friday August 24, 2012 at 12:22
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Does it repeat perpetually or only a specific number of times?

In CCP for original button code, have you definitely unchecked the "Repeat while button is pressed" box? And what number is entered into the "Repeat" box above it? Note that when the box is checked, the "Minimum Repeat" most definitely does not work for MX-900 and MX-980 and it will always repeat at east 3 times even if a lower number is entered.
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OP | Post 3 made on Friday August 24, 2012 at 12:33
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On August 24, 2012 at 12:22, TwistedMelon said...
Does it repeat perpetually or only a specific number of times?

In CCP for original button code, have you definitely unchecked the "Repeat while button is pressed" box? And what number is entered into the "Repeat" box above it? Note that when the box is checked, the "Minimum Repeat" most definitely does not work for MX-900 and MX-980 and it will always repeat at east 3 times even if a lower number is entered.

Number 3, unchecked.
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Post 4 made on Friday August 24, 2012 at 16:48
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If that's the case, then it should repeat 3 times total when pressed, regardless of how long you hold the button down. This is working for me with the current version of CCF and MX-980. Changing it to a 1 will cause it to send only once.

I'm using this for a number of codes and macros directly from the MX-980 right now. I also use it in macros from the MSC-400 with success - and I've tested, code by code, to make sure it's doing what it's supposed to in this case. It saves a bit of time on longer macros for devices that work with short IR bursts.
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OP | Post 5 made on Friday August 24, 2012 at 17:42
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If the box labeled "Repeat while button is pressed" is unchecked, does this not mean it only sends the command once, regardless the number of repeats displayed? I don't want it to repeat. When I press 360, it gives me 3360.
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Post 6 made on Friday August 24, 2012 at 19:02
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It's not the file, it's the DTV box you have. Some are more sensitive than others when using anything other than the oem remote.

What you need to do is learn all the codes that are "repeating". I had to do this with two of my 950's and 2 SD DTV boxes. Learn a "quick press" of each button and you'll be good to go.
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OP | Post 7 made on Friday August 24, 2012 at 19:38
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On August 24, 2012 at 19:02, KVH said...
It's not the file, it's the DTV box you have. Some are more sensitive than others when using anything other than the oem remote.

What you need to do is learn all the codes that are "repeating". I had to do this with two of my 950's and 2 SD DTV boxes. Learn a "quick press" of each button and you'll be good to go.

Thank you for that advice, that was going to be my next attempt.
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Post 8 made on Saturday August 25, 2012 at 00:05
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On August 24, 2012 at 17:42, Slimfoot said...
If the box labeled "Repeat while button is pressed" is unchecked, does this not mean it only sends the command once,

No, of course not. That check-mark only controls repeating while holding the button - so-called perpetual repeating.

When you UN-check that, there's a text-box above it where the specific number of repeats are set. That text box controls exactly how many repeats are sent ONE TIME, whether you press the button quickly or hold it down. The default starts at 3 and you have to change it to 1 if you desire.

Most remote protocols include some repeating by design, such as NEC which sends a one-time code and a minimum of 2 repeat "dittos". However some OEM remotes which implement that protocol in fact don't send any repeats at all by default and the products which they control may be oversensitive such that 4 repeats (the single one-time plus 3 dittos) might cause it to recognize as two button presses.

The issue with having to re-learn isn't because an OEM product may be oversensitive, it's because URC's software doesn't have robust protocol recognition and reconstruction and that their MINIMUM repeat settings don't work for the press and hold (default) button assignment.

I've done many learning tests as well as tests where I feed CCP specific IR codes that I've manually constructed and then check how the MX-980 spits them back out in IR to verify all this.

If you are using an OEM remote to teach the code to the URC remote you may have a difficult time. If you're willing to use Makehex to construct codes you can really fine-tune the codes for best results.
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OP | Post 9 made on Saturday August 25, 2012 at 12:15
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On August 25, 2012 at 00:05, TwistedMelon said...
If you are using an OEM remote to teach the code to the URC remote you may have a difficult time. If you're willing to use Makehex to construct codes you can really fine-tune the codes for best results.

Thanks for your input. Where do I find Makehex and instructions on how to use it?
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Post 10 made on Sunday August 26, 2012 at 10:04
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An older version is probably available in the file section here, but you will have better results using the newer software from the JP1 group's file section.

[Link: hifi-remote.com]

You can also use a MakeHex GUI, otherwise it's a command-line program and you'll need to edit configuration files by hand with a text editor

Forum discussion about MakeHex GUI: [Link: hifi-remote.com]
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