Thanks for taking the time to respond Todd. Did see one of you messages at DBSDISH. Looked into some of the spin-off forums. They can get nasty huh? I will say that I did notice a little more info re: Directv in there today. Now waiting for a reply from Wayne. He takes the time also, so I think he is knowledgable as well. Maybe this forum/thread can create some more dialogue in the DBS area. (Daniel, this is a better site, ie; better grammar, spelling, layout, etc.) Thanks again.