So far this has been interesting and enlightening. I don't know what got us to be so reasonable, but it only seems to have a tiny bit of the hallmarks of a thread that has to go. What a testament it would be to our reasonableness if we ended up saying all we have to say on the subject without really going off!
A good answer is easier with a clear question giving the make and model of everything. "The biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place." -- G. “Bernie” Shaw